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If you want the road map for a total life reset, you are in the right place.
如果你想要一個完整人生重啟的路線圖,你來對地方了。
If you're feeling behind, heartbroken, stuck, or in some weird in between, this is your reset playbook because starting over isn't just one singular decision.
如果你感覺落後、心碎、卡住,或處於某種奇怪的中間狀態,這是你的重啟手冊,因為重新開始不只是一個單一的決定。
It's emotional. It's habits. It's health. It's identity. It's love. We're doing this episode at the end of the year because this is when life slows down naturally and you can actually have
它是情感的。它是習慣。它是健康。它是身份。它是愛。我們在年底做這一集是因為這是生活自然放慢的時候,你實際上可以有
some time to reflect. But even if you're listening to this in January, March, or like a random Tuesday, it all applies.
一些時間來反思。但即使你是在一月、三月或某個隨機的星期二聽這個,這些都適用。
Starting over doesn't require the new year or January 1st. Give us 60 minutes and we will give you six frameworks that cover both the emotional and the practical side of starting over.
重新開始不需要新年或一月一日。給我們 60 分鐘,我們會給你六個框架,涵蓋重新開始的情感和實際兩方面。
Everything from career, life, love, and habits. You don't need motivation. You need a system. You're not behind. You're in transition. In part one, we talk about the emotional map. William Bridg's
從職業、生活、愛情到習慣的一切。你不需要動力。你需要一個系統。你沒有落後。你正在過渡。在第一部分,我們談論情感地圖。William Bridges 的
transitions. Carol Dwek's mindset and designing your life. And part two is the toolkit that you can use immediately.
過渡理論。Carol Dweck 的心態和設計你的生活。第二部分是你可以立即使用的工具包。
Atomic habits, vulnerability by Bnee Brown and Rewriting Your Narrative by Esther Prell. And we also have many exercises throughout so you're not just listening, you're doing the work with
原子習慣,Brené Brown 的脆弱,和 Esther Perel 的重寫你的敘事。我們在整個過程中也有很多練習,所以你不只是在聽,你是在和
us. A quick note, we actually released these episodes 4 months ago and 7 months ago. We still use the frameworks and reflect on them. So whether you're starting over in your career, in love
我們一起做這些工作。快速說明,我們實際上在 4 個月前和 7 個月前發布了這些集數。我們仍然使用這些框架並反思它們。所以無論你是在職業上重新開始,在愛情中
after a breakup, after a layoff, or you just want to reinvent yourself, this is the ultimate road map. Rewrite the story that no longer serves you. Let's get into it.
分手後、被裁員後,或你只是想重塑自己,這是終極路線圖。重寫那個不再服務你的故事。讓我們開始吧。
Today's episode is presented by SoFi, the all-in-one finance app that allows you to bank, borrow, and invest your money in one place. and we're back. So,
今天的節目由 SoFi 贊助,這是一個一體化的金融應用程式,讓你可以在一個地方進行銀行、借貸和投資。我們回來了。所以,
one of the reasons why we want to talk about this topic is because transitions happen all the time. Especially when you're in your early 20s and 30s, I
我們想談這個話題的原因之一是因為過渡一直在發生。特別是當你在 20 歲出頭和 30 歲的時候,我
would say when you're coming out of school, so much of my identity, both professional and personal, was built around my career, for better or for worse. And when something big happens,
會說當你剛出學校時,我的身份,無論是專業的還是個人的,很大程度上都是圍繞我的職業建立的,不管是好是壞。當發生大事時,
like a transition, I didn't really have the tools to handle it. So, I'm so glad we're talking about this in this episode. The first framework that we're going to be talking about is William
比如一個過渡,我真的沒有工具來處理它。所以,我很高興我們在這一集中談論這個。我們要談的第一個框架是 William
Bridg's transition framework. So William Bridges in his book transitions says that change is actually external. So that's something like changing jobs while transition is actually an internal process. So William Bridges actually
Bridges 的過渡框架。William Bridges 在他的書《過渡》中說改變實際上是外在的。所以那是像換工作這樣的事情,而過渡實際上是一個內在的過程。William Bridges 實際上
outlines three stages. There's ending, neutral zone, and new beginnings. I really love this framework and especially how it names and like titles each of the stages. So often people,
概述了三個階段。有結束、中性區和新開始。我真的很喜歡這個框架,特別是它如何命名和標題每個階段。很多時候人們,
including me, will rush to the new beginning and not even process what just happened. Whether it's a career change, whether it's a change in relationship or a friendship. I think for me, since I'm
包括我,會急於進入新開始而不處理剛剛發生的事情。無論是職業變化、關係或友誼的變化。我認為對我來說,因為我
such like a go go go type a person, I'm like, "Okay, how do I execute and just do the next thing?" Because honestly, that's what keeps me from processing
是這麼一個永不停歇的 A 型人格,我會說,「好的,我怎麼執行然後做下一件事?」因為老實說,這是讓我不用處理
like a lot of the like hurtful or bad or sad emotions. But so much of it is staying in the neutral zone, reflecting before starting in the new beginning.
很多傷害或糟糕或悲傷情緒的原因。但很多是停留在中性區,在開始新開始之前反思。
One thing we wanted to do throughout this episode in every section as we talk about each framework is actually give kind of personal anecdotes as like a version of like case studies kind of
我們想在這一集的每個部分做的一件事是,當我們談論每個框架時,實際上給出個人軼事作為案例研究的一個版本,有點
like how we did in our earlier episodes where for the case studies we talked about different companies or brands.
像我們在早期集數中做的,那時案例研究我們談論的是不同的公司或品牌。
This time we're going to talk like use ourselves as a case studies. So for me, for example, I've shared before that at age 35, I ended my engagement after an
這次我們要用自己作為案例研究。所以對我來說,例如,我之前分享過在 35 歲時,我在一段
eight-year long relationship. Um, so that obviously was the ending part of this framework. And as I moved into the neutral zone, I felt like really lost in
八年的關係後結束了我的訂婚。嗯,所以那顯然是這個框架的結束部分。當我進入中性區時,我在
a lot of ways because it wasn't just the ending of a relationship. It was like the ending of the entire sort of conception of my life and like all of
很多方面感到非常迷失,因為這不只是一段關係的結束。這是整個對我生活的構想的結束,以及所有
the next steps of my life where obviously I was going to get married, we were going to have kids, we were going to, you know, live happily ever after
我對自己是誰的理解。我必須重新定義自己。誰是沒有那段關係的 Jean?
together. But only by actually being in and like slowly working through the mire of the neutral zone was I finally able to emerge out to the the new beginning,
這是一個非常困難的過程。但這個中性區是你真正做內在工作的地方。
which is like now like this is my new beginning. This is so so different than anything I've ever done before. But I don't think I ever would have been able
你呢 Sheree?你有沒有一個你經歷過的過渡想要分享?
to arrive here had I not gone through the process of like being sort of like feeling stuck in the neutral zone and like trying all these new different
是的。對我來說,是離開我在 LinkedIn 的工作。我在那裡待了五年。那是我大學畢業後的第一份工作。
things which we'll talk about in the later frameworks and just like really being in it for sort of like quite a what felt like quite a while. It felt
我的整個身份都圍繞著成為一名 LinkedIn 員工。當我離開時,我不知道我是誰了。
like a long time to me because I'm also a really I think inherently impatient person. But I think that's why the neutral zone is so difficult >> because sometimes it can feel like when
中性區對我來說真的很不舒服。我想立即跳到下一件事。但我必須允許自己坐在不確定中。
you're in the neutral zone, not a lot is happening daytoday because like you know in my neutral zone I'm like journaling.
這是這個框架如此強大的地方。它給你許可停留在那個中性區。
I'm going to the gym things feel slow but when that compounds over time when you're like super reflective I'm like oh something worked something happened.
讓我們繼續第二個框架。Carol Dweck 的心態。
Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah. And okay, not not to forget that I also right before ending my engagement had just left my job at Snapchat as head
Carol Dweck 是史丹佛的心理學家,她寫了這本叫《心態》的書。她談到固定心態和成長心態。
of product. And that was after working at Snap for over seven for seven years and having worked in corporate for pretty much my entire professional life.
固定心態是當你相信你的能力是固定的。你要麼有它,要麼沒有。你不能改變。
So it was like a big it was like multiple like huge transitions and changes at the same time.
成長心態是當你相信你的能力可以通過努力和學習發展。你可以變得更好。
>> That's really scary. Yeah, it was scary, guys. It was scary.
這與重新開始有什麼關係?當你重新開始時,你需要一個成長心態。
>> And then I moved in. >> Yeah. Yeah.
如果你有固定心態,你會認為「我已經太老了不能改變」或「我就是這樣的人」。
>> And we became roommates and we started this new venture together.
但有成長心態,你會說「我可以學習新技能」「我可以重塑自己」。
>> Yeah. Yeah. New beginnings. >> And we also want to give you another example of someone you might have heard of, Steve Jobs. The Steve Jobs story is
這是一個強大的重新框架。讓我們做一個迷你練習。
pretty infamous. He was ousted by the board at Apple. He basically lost control of his company. He was kicked out and that was technically his ending.
想想你生活中一個你有固定心態的領域。可能是職業、關係或技能。
As the lore goes, he then spent years in the creative wilderness where it was the neutral zone. He was reflecting and figuring out his next moves. And then he triumphantly returned to Apple, which
現在用成長心態的語言重新框架它。不是「我不擅長」,而是「我還沒擅長,但我可以學習」。
was his new beginning. It just underscores how the neutral zone can be a place for fresh ideas and for setting you up for your next starting over
這是一個小改變但它產生了很大的影響。讓我們繼續第三個框架。設計你的生活。
point. We also wanted to in this episode give many exercises so that you could actually practice the framework IRL. So, the one for transitions is to jot down
這來自一本同名的書,由 Bill Burnett 和 Dave Evans 寫的。他們都是史丹佛的設計教授。
one area of your life that you feel like there is an impending ending or is like actually ending or has just ended. And then write down how you feel about it.
核心思想是你可以用設計思維的原則來設計你的生活。你不需要有完美的計劃。你可以原型化、測試和迭代。
And then next, write down one possibility that could bloom if you actually fully embrace the neutral zone.
這太解放了。特別是對於那些感覺卡住的人因為他們不知道「正確」的道路是什麼。
And we'd love to learn about what you guys write if you're open to sharing with us in the comments. After you finish this exercise, we'd love to hear
這本書中最有力的工具之一是奧德賽計劃。你為你的未來設計三個不同的五年計劃。
from you in the comments about your new possibilities. And just a reminder, this transition framework can apply to so many things. It can apply to career, romance, friendship, basically anything.
計劃一是你目前的道路。如果你繼續做你正在做的,五年後你會在哪裡?
So, it's a time for reflection. And up next, we'll talk about Carol Dwek's growth mindset framework. So, I'm really excited to talk about this topic. I read
計劃二是如果計劃一消失了你會做什麼。如果你不能做你目前的工作,你會做什麼?
this book a long time ago, and Carol Dwek is actually a professor at Stanford, so I hold this very close to my heart. In Carol Dwek's book, she talks about two different types of
計劃三是瘋狂的夢想。如果錢和別人的看法不是問題,你會做什麼?
mindset. a fixed mindset or a growth mindset. And a fixed mindset is basically believing within yourself either I'm good at something or I'm not.
這個練習打開了可能性。它向你展示你有選擇。
A growth mindset is that I can learn something and with enough effort and perseverance I can figure it out. And I think what's really important to distinguish is that some people
讓我們進入第二部分。工具包。
ironically are like, oh, like I'm not a growth mindset person or I am a growth mindset person. That actually goes against the entire concept of growth mindset because you're not one person or
第一個工具是原子習慣,由 James Clear 寫的。這是關於通過小改變建立好習慣並打破壞習慣。
another. It's just a mindset. So anybody, even if you previously had a fixed mindset, you can adopt a growth mindset going forward.
核心思想是 1% 的改善會隨著時間複利。你不需要做出巨大的改變。只需每天變好 1%。
>> A growth mindset to adopt a growth mindset.
當你重新開始時,這很重要。你不需要一夜之間改變一切。從小處開始。
>> Yes. Exactly. But that's just something that I want to emphasize because like sometimes people are so like, you know, like sort of like been in their ways for
他有一個叫做習慣堆疊的概念。你把新習慣疊加在現有習慣上。所以如果你想冥想,你把它附在早晨的咖啡上。
so long. They've been in that fixed mindset for such a long time that they almost couldn't imagine themselves being a growth mindset person. But it's just a mindset shift. It's not inherent to your
這讓建立新習慣更容易因為你不是從零開始。你在利用你已經在做的事情。
being. You know what I mean? People with growth mindset are able to push through obstacles, whereas people with a more fixed mindset, when they're faced with obstacles, they're like, "Oh god, this
第二個工具是脆弱,由 Brené Brown 寫的。她談到脆弱是力量,不是弱點。
is just another reason why, you know, XYZ can't happen." Like it feels like they're very stuck. And instead of seeing an obstacle as something that you can like go around or figure out, it's
當你重新開始時,你必須脆弱。你必須承認你不知道所有的答案。你必須尋求幫助。
just an obstacle in their way. >> And so I felt a huge need to develop a growth mindset. although I didn't have this terminology for it in college and I
這對高成就者來說很難。我們習慣了掌控。但脆弱是連結和成長所必需的。
especially felt this when I was studying computer science >> and because I was able to, you know, major in computer science, really tough it out and seek all the resources and
第三個工具是重寫你的敘事,由 Esther Perel 啟發。她是一位著名的治療師,談論我們講述關於自己的故事。
study and work my ass off for it. I'm just like I was able to do that. I feel like I'm able to do anything now.
我們都有一個關於我們是誰和我們如何到達這裡的敘事。但那個敘事並不總是服務於我們。
>> And it's like given me a growth mindset that like I can do hard things. And it actually kind of even more than that.
當你重新開始時,你有機會重寫那個敘事。你不必被你的過去定義。
I'm like I did that was like the hardest thing of my life doing like you know all-nighters and studying it like it was a grueling major for me and I'm so happy
這是一個強大的工具。讓我們做一個練習。
I did it and I enjoyed it along the way but I'm like if I can do that I can basically do anything.
想想你關於自己講述的一個故事。可能是「我總是搞砸關係」或「我不擅長金錢」。
>> And that is just like where my growth mindset is like rooted so deeply in my body that I'm like any challenge I can figure it out.
現在重新框架它。不是「我總是搞砸關係」,而是「我還在學習如何成為更好的伴侶」。
>> Yeah. You know I so relate to that. I think that having a growth mindset is actually one of my like self-identified most defining factors actually because I
這個重新框架改變了一切。它從固定變成成長。從受害者變成主角。
feel like if I hadn't had a growth mindset, I never would have taken the path that I did because even honestly my first job out of school working at
讓我們用一些最後的想法結束。
Goldman, I took that job like not even really knowing how to use Excel. I swear to God I I swear I did not know how to
重新開始很難。這是情感化的。這是混亂的。但這也是一個巨大成長的機會。
use Excel except for like we used it a few times in these statistics class like statistics and econometrics classes that I had to take. But that's different like than
記住這些框架。過渡。心態。設計你的生活。原子習慣。脆弱。重寫你的敘事。
>> it's different than creating like a DCF model or something.
你不是落後。你正在過渡。你不需要動力。你需要一個系統。
>> It's actually it's different from actually using Excel in like a workplace setting where you have to do it as fast as you can and as accurately as you can.
我們希望這一集對你有幫助。如果你喜歡它,請訂閱 Tiger Sisters 播客。
So like I sort of like threw myself into the deep end and like threw myself to the wolves in a way and I was able to eventually like learn like to be clear I
在 Spotify 和 Apple Podcasts 上給我們五星評價。分享就是關愛。
was never became like an Excel wiz. I was never even in the top 50% of people who were like good at using Excel at work, especially as an analyst, but I
感謝收聽。我們下次見。
was able to still be a very good top performing analyst. And because I was able to like do that, that's how I even had the courage to be like, hey, yeah,
拜拜。
like I'll be a product manager. Like there are a lot like lot of things I don't know about product management.
像是我會成為產品經理。像是有很多很多關於產品管理的事情我不知道。
Well, I don't know anything about product management actually, but I feel like I have the inherent skill to be able to learn things quickly and work
嗯,我其實對產品管理一無所知,但我覺得我有與生俱來的技能能夠快速學習東西和努力
hard and try my best and like all these these other things so that like I will learn how to be an excellent product manager just like I learned how to be an
工作和盡我所能,像是所有這些其他事情,所以我會學會成為一個優秀的產品經理,就像我學會成為一個優秀的
excellent, you know, financial analyst at Goldman Sachs. And then like same thing for like everything in our lives, even what we're doing now. Like I've never been in front of the camera
你知道的,高盛的優秀金融分析師。然後像是對我們生活中的所有事情都一樣,甚至包括我們現在做的。像是我以前從來沒有在鏡頭前
before. I've never like talked about my personal life and my experiences or like shared my learnings with people before, but I'm like, "Yeah, I can do it." Like,
從來沒有像是談論過我的個人生活和經歷,或者像是和別人分享過我的心得,但我就像是「是的,我可以做到。」像是,
I don't know. I don't know. I hope I'm hope I'm doing a good job with, you know, up to you guys.
我不知道。我不知道。我希望我做得好,你知道的,由你們來判斷。
>> Leave nice comments for Jean. We She We read every single one of them. If you like Jean being on camera, she's vulnerable. She's taking, you know, a
給Jean留下好評論。我們會讀每一條評論。如果你喜歡Jean出鏡,她很脆弱。她正在,你知道的,
lot of courage to be here. We love that.
鼓起很大勇氣來到這裡。我們喜歡這樣。
We love I'm still new to this, guys, but but I was just like, "Sure, I'll do it." Like, I'll just throw myself into it and I think it'll be fun and I'll be
我們喜歡,我對這個還是新手,各位,但我就像是「好啊,我來做。」像是,我就投入其中,我覺得會很有趣,我會
developing a new a new skill and like a new side of me and it's been really fun and I'm >> it's very rewarding. So, I think all of
發展一種新技能,像是我新的一面,這真的很有趣,而且非常有回報。所以,我覺得所有
that like my entire career can be sort of chocked up to the fact that I had a growth mindset that any of this stuff even happened.
那些,像是我的整個職業生涯都可以歸結為一個事實,就是我有成長心態,這些事情才會發生。
>> Yeah. And also what we're working on now with Sisters Matcha, our matcha brand that we started like last July, August, like we have only worked in like digital products for our professional careers,
是的。還有我們現在在做的Sisters Matcha,我們去年七八月開始的抹茶品牌,我們整個職業生涯只做過數位產品,
right? So like we are product managers at tech companies, but now we have a CPG company, a consumer packaged good. It's like a physical thing that we're selling
對吧?所以我們是科技公司的產品經理,但現在我們有一家CPG公司,消費包裝品。這像是一個我們在賣的實體東西
and it's also a consumable, which is so different from >> so wild guys. wild to me >> and also so fun.
而且它還是消耗品,這和之前完全不同,太瘋狂了各位。對我來說太瘋狂了,而且也超有趣。
>> It's so fun. Yeah. >> If you if what we're saying kind of resonates with you and you're like you like challenges and you like learning, then like a growth mindset is a great
太有趣了。是的。如果我們說的和你產生共鳴,你喜歡挑戰和學習,那麼成長心態是一個很好的
thing to adopt so that you continuously learn more and also learn faster. Like in this last year, we're doing completely new things and I'm having the
可以採納的東西,這樣你可以持續學習更多,也學得更快。像是在過去這一年,我們在做完全新的事情,我正在擁有
time of my life. It is so fun and it's so scary too. Like on the other side of it, it's just like, holy crap, I'm doing things I've never done before. I don't
我人生中最棒的時光。這太有趣了,也太可怕了。像是在另一面,就像是,天啊,我在做我從來沒做過的事。我不
know if I'm doing it right. >> I don't know if I'm doing like a good job of it.
知道我做得對不對。我不知道我做得好不好。
>> We don't know anyone in the industry to like help us. Like, we're kind of just like figuring it out. Like, you know how people are saying you're like building
我們不認識業內任何人可以幫助我們。像是,我們只是在摸索。像是,你知道人們說的,你像是在一邊造飛機
the airplane and flying it as you go.
一邊飛。
It's kind of what we're doing. >> But also like I like it. In addition to like not knowing, I'm also trying my hardest and because I believe in it and
這有點像我們在做的。但我也喜歡這樣。除了不知道之外,我也在盡我最大努力,因為我相信它,
love it so much that like I can try my hardest and give 120% with no regrets.
非常喜歡它,所以我可以盡最大努力,付出120%,沒有遺憾。
You know what I mean? Cuz we're working for ourselves. I wouldn't give 120% if I were working for the man. But you know what I mean? Like I just wouldn't care
你懂我的意思嗎?因為我們是為自己工作。如果我是為別人工作,我不會付出120%。但你懂我的意思嗎?我就是不會那麼
as much. So I guess with the growth mindset, it's just like fulfilling so much of what I care about. And I'm so excited to have a growth mindset, too.
在乎。所以我猜有了成長心態,它就是滿足了我在乎的這麼多東西。我很興奮能有成長心態。
Um yeah. And I guess the last thing I'll say on a more personal note when I am looking for a partner and like in dating someone romantically.
嗯是的。我猜最後我想說的,在更私人的層面,當我在找伴侶和約會的時候。
>> Oh. Oh. >> I >> we do say our podcast is about money, power, and love.
喔。喔。我們確實說過我們的播客是關於錢、權力和愛的。
>> Yes. And so this is the love component.
是的。所以這是愛的部分。
I will only be with a person if they have a growth mindset.
我只會和一個有成長心態的人在一起。
>> Like they because a growth mindset is important for work. That's kind of what we're talking about. But it's also so important for relationships instead of someone being like this is who like if
像是因為成長心態對工作很重要。這有點像我們在談論的。但對關係也非常重要,與其某人說這就是我,像是如果
we fight or get into an argument like this is who I am blah blah blah like don't try to change me like I'm not trying to change anyone but we should be
我們吵架或有爭執,像是這就是我,諸如此類,像是不要試圖改變我。我不是要改變任何人,但我們應該
able to grow together if we're like going to be a pair. We need to be able to move in the same direction and that can mean both of us being flexible and
能夠一起成長,如果我們要成為一對。我們需要能夠朝同一個方向前進,這可能意味著我們雙方都要靈活和
growing and learning together. I totally agree because aside from the aspect of where you're I don't know like if you're in an argument or something with someone
一起成長和學習。我完全同意,因為除了你在,我不知道,像是如果你和某人爭吵的那個方面
who has a fixed versus growth mindset, I think it's just like your everyday interactions with someone. I feel like it's almost kind of like a person who's
那個人有固定心態還是成長心態,我覺得這只是像是你和某人的日常互動。我覺得這幾乎有點像是一個人
a default no versus a person who's like default yes.
默認是說不的,對比一個默認是說好的人。
>> Yeah. >> Right. Like or even just like a default maybe. Like you know what I mean? Just like not a hard no.
是的。對。或者甚至只是默認也許。像是你懂我的意思嗎?就是不是硬性的不。
>> Yeah. >> Which is just more fun to live that way.
是的。這樣生活更有趣。
>> Yeah. Like I recently Should I tell a personal story?
是的。像是我最近,我要講一個私人故事嗎?
>> Oh my god, I'm scared. I'm like terrified. I don't know what's gonna come out of your mouth.
天哪,我好怕。我像是很害怕。我不知道你要說什麼。
>> Okay, if it's not good, we can cut it.
好吧,如果不好,我們可以剪掉。
But no, this is just random. I recently was supposed to go to this Broadway rave with my girlfriend who loves Broadway, like obsessed with Broadway. And we like
但不是,這只是隨便說說。我最近本來要和我喜歡百老匯的女性朋友去這個百老匯狂歡,像是對百老匯癡迷。我們
found this Broadway rave. So we were like, lol, like this is hilarious. And then my other friend was supposed to come. She couldn't come at the last
發現了這個百老匯狂歡。所以我們就像是,哈哈,這太搞笑了。然後我另一個朋友本來要來。她最後一刻來不了。
minute. So I was going to go from a date to this Broadway rave, but since we had this extra ticket, I just asked my date.
所以我本來要從約會去這個百老匯狂歡,但因為我們有這張多餘的票,我就問了我的約會對象。
I was like, "Hey, like do you want to come to this Broadway rave with me?" And like this is not a person who I think has like ever like not a Broadway
我就像是,「嘿,你想和我去這個百老匯狂歡嗎?」像是這不是一個我覺得,像是從來不是一個百老匯
person, not a theater person at all. And he was just like, "Yeah, sure. Yeah, that'll be fun." And then he went and he had like the time of his life. And
人,完全不是戲劇人。他就說,「好啊,當然。是的,那會很有趣。」然後他去了,他玩得超開心。而且
>> is that growth mindset or does he just like you >> or does he just want to spend more time with you?
這是成長心態還是他只是喜歡你,或者他只是想和你多待一會?
>> I thought it was growth mindset. >> Well, I'm glad you >> maybe it's a combination.
我以為是成長心態。嗯,我很高興你,也許是兩者的結合。
>> It's a combination of both. And >> wow, my Long Island accent is coming out for some reason because I'm embarrassed.
是兩者的結合。而且,哇,我的長島口音因為某種原因出來了,因為我不好意思。
>> It's a combination. Um, and I'm glad you told that story cuz that was a safe story. I didn't know. I really didn't know.
是結合。嗯,我很高興你講了那個故事,因為那是個安全的故事。我不知道。我真的不知道。
>> What kind of stories did you think I was going to tell? We won't go there.
你以為我要講什麼故事?我們不去那裡。
>> Should we keep it in? Should we Should we keep this in?
我們應該保留嗎?我們應該保留這個嗎?
>> That's for subscribers only. >> Just kidding. We don't have a subscription service. But anyway, >> should we >> I I wanted to say on the love part,
那是只給訂閱者的。開玩笑。我們沒有訂閱服務。但無論如何,我想在愛的部分說,
another personal anecdote um is that I have um a two friends who are married and um they were telling me more about their relationship and a mantra that
另一個私人軼事是我有兩個朋友是已婚的,他們告訴我更多關於他們的關係,有一個他們分享的座右銘
like they share is they ask each other after a long day, they both work, they ask each other like how can I love you better?
就是他們在漫長的一天後會問對方,他們都工作,他們問對方,我怎麼能更好地愛你?
>> Whoa. >> Yes. Yes. >> Who day? Tell me later. beep and beep.
哇。是的。是的。誰?以後告訴我。嗶和嗶。
Um, and they're like, you know, happily married, recently married, but like that's something that's been a fixture of their relationship is that they ask each other that. And I love the story or
嗯,他們,你知道的,幸福地結婚了,最近結婚的,但這是他們關係的一個固定部分,就是他們會問對方這個。我喜歡這個故事或
just even that mantra because like I aspire to have a relationship like that where it's so rooted in growth and like how can I be better? Not that I'm doing
甚至只是那個座右銘,因為我嚮往有那樣的關係,根植於成長,像是我怎麼能更好?不是我做錯了
anything wrong, but I just want to like continually grow and be better and like love you better. I think that's a very beautiful thing.
什麼,但我只是想持續成長和變得更好,更好地愛你。我覺得那是非常美好的事情。
>> It's so intentional. It is. I want that.
這太有意圖了。是的。我想要那個。
I want that for me. >> She's Yeah. She wants the book. She wants the, you know, >> you know.
我想要那個給我。她想要那本書。她想要,你知道的,你知道的。
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How can I love you better every day? How can I love you better every day?
是的。是的。我怎麼能每天更好地愛你?我怎麼能每天更好地愛你?
>> Um, >> don't answer that. >> Okay. Okay. And before we move on to the next framework, just a really quick mini exercise for you guys to do is one,
嗯,不要回答那個。好。好。在我們繼續下一個框架之前,給你們一個非常快速的小練習,一是
identify a limiting belief that you have and then two, rewrite it with a growth mindset approach. So, an example of this, we talked about it in one of our
識別你有的一個限制性信念,然後二,用成長心態的方法重寫它。所以,這個的一個例子,我們在之前的
previous episodes, but I learned this at Stanford and it's basically manifestation but better. Um, one of our one of my professors, Joel Peterson, he has these mantras and they were based
節目中談過,但我在史丹佛學到的,基本上是更好的顯化。我的一個教授,Joel Peterson,他有這些座右銘,它們是基於
off of his previous limiting beliefs. So, for example, one of his limiting beliefs is that he thought he was a very emotional person, like he let his emotions get the best of him sometimes.
他之前的限制性信念。所以,例如,他的一個限制性信念是他認為自己是一個非常情緒化的人,像是他有時候讓情緒控制了他。
So, he turned that around and instead of having his emotions control him, his new mantra or what he, you know, how he talks to himself is he says, "I am not
所以,他把它反過來,不是讓情緒控制他,他的新座右銘或他對自己說的話是,「我不是
my emotions." So, that's just one very quick example of a limiting belief that you might have and one way to turn it on its head.
我的情緒。」所以,這只是一個關於你可能有的限制性信念的非常快速的例子,以及一個把它反轉的方法。
>> Now, try the exercise on your own and let us know in the comments what you write down. I feel like a teacher. The last framework we're going to talk about
現在,自己嘗試這個練習,在評論中告訴我們你寫下了什麼。我感覺像個老師。我們今天要談的最後一個框架
today is a concept popularized by Stamford called design thinking. This framework called designing your life helps you cut wasted time by allowing you to quickly test your ideas. They
是史丹佛推廣的一個概念,叫設計思維。這個叫做設計你的人生的框架通過讓你快速測試想法來幫助你減少浪費的時間。他們
have a book and also a class at Stanford where they teach this to students. I didn't get the chance to take the class at Stanford but many of my friends did.
有一本書,在史丹佛也有一門課教學生這個。我沒有機會在史丹佛上那門課,但我很多朋友上了。
And the four parts of this framework are as follows. The first is curiosity. The second is prototyping experiences. The third is reframing problems. And the fourth is radical collaboration. H. So
這個框架的四個部分如下。第一是好奇心。第二是原型體驗。第三是重構問題。第四是激進合作。所以
this framework emphasizes action and taking small experiments over like endless thought exercises and pondering.
這個框架強調行動和進行小實驗,而不是無止盡的思考練習和沉思。
So one way I applied this framework in my own life is that after I finally left Snap after working there for seven years, I wanted to try out a bunch of
所以我在自己生活中應用這個框架的一個方式是,在我終於離開Snap工作了七年後,我想嘗試一堆
different things that basically I'd never done in my life. Like I was kind of trying to figure out what I want to do next before I decided to start this
我人生中從未做過的不同事情。像是我在試圖弄清楚我接下來想做什麼,在我決定和
company with Sheree Sisters Worldwide. And um one thing that I have always loved is fashion. And like basically at every point in my life where I could um
Sheree一起創辦這家公司Sisters Worldwide之前。而且有一件我一直喜歡的事是時尚。基本上在我人生中每一個我可以
do like take on a job or like a new career before aside from the job that I actually ended up doing, I looked at many different like roles in fashion. So
做的時候,像是接受一份工作或新的職業,除了我實際上最終做的工作,我看了很多時尚行業的不同職位。所以
finally I had this opportunity to like work in fashion. So, what I ended up doing is I took this unpaid internship where I worked at a place called the
終於我有這個機會去從事時尚行業。所以,我最終做的是我接受了這個無薪實習,在一個叫
Albbright Fashion Library in LA in LA where I actually worked as a stylist.
洛杉磯Albright時尚圖書館的地方,在洛杉磯,我實際上是作為造型師工作。
And it was like the one of the most fun and like fulfilling things I've ever done. And it's not like it was like particularly glamorous. Like I feel
這是我做過的最有趣和最有成就感的事情之一。而且不是說它特別光鮮亮麗。像是我覺得
like, you know, 20% of the time my job was to like rearrange the like massive shoe closet. So, like it's not like I was, you know, like doing like a super
你知道的,20%的時間我的工作是重新整理那個巨大的鞋子收納間。所以,像是不是說我,你知道的,像是在做像是超級
highpowered like job at, you know, a Parisian couture house or something like that, but it was just so fun to be able to like be in the industry and finally
高端的工作在,你知道的,巴黎高級定製時裝屋或什麼的,但能夠在這個行業裡並終於
test out this hypothesis that I had had for like 20some years of like, do I actually want to work in the fashion industry or do I just want to be, you
測試這個我持有了像是20多年的假設,真的太有趣了,就是我真的想在時尚行業工作嗎,還是我只是想成為,你
know, like a participant through sort of like consumption and enjoying it. So that was something where yeah like I basically like invented this internship for myself where I worked there one day
知道的,像是通過消費和享受來參與的人。所以那是,是的,我基本上為自己發明了這個實習,我每週在那裡工作一天
a week for the whole day. It shows to me how actionoriented you are and kind of to tie together this uh framework with the first framework that we talked about
整天。這向我展示了你有多行動導向,並且把這個框架和我們談到的第一個框架
with transitions. I think it's really important that after doing some reflection and you know you were in the neutral zone, figuring out what you want to do next, you were able to test out
關於過渡聯繫起來。我認為在做了一些反思之後,你知道你處於中性區,弄清楚你接下來想做什麼,你能夠通過實習測試
this new beginning with an internship. It was like a mini test to see if you liked it or not. Um, and to see, you know, what your next moves would be
這個新的開始。這像是一個迷你測試,看你是否喜歡。嗯,看看,你知道的,在你從外部世界收集信息後你的下一步行動是什麼
after you gather information from the external world. So, I think it's so cool that you were able to, >> you know, um, reflect and then figure out your next moves.
所以,我認為你能夠,你知道的,嗯,反思然後弄清楚你的下一步行動是如此酷。
>> Yeah. and then also like create this opportunity for myself.
是的。然後也像是為自己創造這個機會。
>> A lot of people in general I think feel very paralyzed. I know I often do if like I'm stuck and I'm like I don't know what to do next. So that like having
我認為一般來說很多人感到非常癱瘓。我知道我經常這樣,如果像是我被卡住了,我像是我不知道接下來該做什麼。所以像是有
this design thinking framework allows you to break out of the paralysis and be like let me at least test something and try something because I know with a
這個設計思維框架讓你能夠打破癱瘓,然後就像是讓我至少測試一些東西,嘗試一些東西,因為我知道有
growth mindset I will learn something no matter if it goes well or not. I might fail and that's fine, but that means I'm learning.
成長心態,不管結果好不好我都會學到東西。我可能會失敗,那也沒關係,但那意味著我在學習。
>> Yeah. I love how you tied those mindsets together. That's very nice.
是的。我喜歡你把那些心態聯繫在一起。那非常好。
>> Thank you. >> Well done. Brava. Okay, so now it's time for the mini exercise. So the mini exercise for this is to think about an area that you
謝謝。做得好。太棒了。好,所以現在是小練習時間。所以這個的小練習是想一個你
want to pivot and then next brainstorm two experiments you can do. They can be like really really tiny experiments.
想要轉型的領域,然後接下來腦力激盪兩個你可以做的實驗。它們可以是非常非常小的實驗。
They don't have to be massive, but think about two experiments that you can do to actually test out the pivot. And if you want, you can share your pivot or you
它們不必是巨大的,但想想兩個你可以做的實驗來實際測試這個轉型。如果你願意,你可以分享你的轉型或你
can share your experiment in the comments so that you can have some social accountability. We'll be reading them.
可以在評論中分享你的實驗,這樣你可以有一些社交責任感。我們會讀它們。
>> Yeah. And if you leave a comment about it, I we will read them and respond to them.
是的。如果你留下關於它的評論,我們會讀它們並回覆它們。
>> Oo, yeah. So, should we wrap up, Sheree?
喔,是的。所以,我們應該總結一下嗎,Sheree?
>> Yes, we should. To wrap up, we talked about three frameworks today. one, the William Bridges transition framework.
是的,我們應該。總結一下,我們今天談了三個框架。一,William Bridges過渡框架。
Two, Carol Dwek's growth mindset framework. And three, Bill Bernett and Dave Evans design your life framework.
二,Carol Dweck的成長心態框架。三,Bill Burnett和Dave Evans的設計你的人生框架。
>> So, you can think about these individually or you can try and combine them. But we hope this was really helpful for you guys. Yeah. And if you
所以,你可以單獨思考這些,或者你可以嘗試把它們結合起來。但我們希望這對你們真的有幫助。是的。如果你
found this helpful, help us reach 1 million by sharing this with your friends. And also obviously like, comment, and subscribe. and rate us five stars on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
覺得這有幫助,通過分享給你的朋友幫助我們達到100萬。當然還有點贊、評論和訂閱。在Apple Podcasts和Spotify給我們五星。
It's a long list, but you know, you can do all of them. We believe in you. Thank you guys so much for supporting our podcast and for tuning in. We'll see you next time.
是一個很長的清單,但你知道的,你可以全部做到。我們相信你。非常感謝你們支持我們的播客和收聽。下次見。
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Okay, pause. That was the emotional map of starting over. And like we mentioned before, if you're in it right now, you are not crazy if it feels so slow to
好,暫停。那是重新開始的情感地圖。像我們之前提到的,如果你現在正處於其中,你不是瘋了如果它感覺對你來說很慢。
you. Because the neutral zone, like we were talking about before, is where things actually build. Now, we're switching to the daily operating system.
因為中性區,像我們之前談到的,是真正建設的地方。現在,我們要切換到日常操作系統。
This is what really moves you forward when you're in the thick of it. Atomic habits, vulnerability, and rewriting your narrative. This is the toolkit.
這是當你深陷其中時真正推動你前進的東西。原子習慣、脆弱性和重寫你的故事。這是工具包。
Welcome back. So, the first topic we're going to go over is James Clear's Atomic Habits and why it's relevant for starting over. I'm so excited to talk
歡迎回來。所以,我們要講的第一個話題是James Clear的《原子習慣》以及它為什麼與重新開始相關。我很興奮談論
about this. I read this book a few years ago, and it's still something that I think about every single week. Experts say that 90% of people who start a new
這個。我幾年前讀了這本書,這仍然是我每週都會想到的東西。專家說90%開始新
habit end up quitting at day 10. And we're going to show you how to be that successful 10% that sticks with it.
習慣的人最終在第10天放棄。我們會向你展示如何成為堅持下去的成功的10%。
Yeah. Because when reinventing yourself, huge goals can be kind of paralyzing.
是的。因為在重塑自己時,巨大的目標可能會讓人癱瘓。
And so the good thing about atomic habits is that essentially it breaks things down into mini goals that you can actually achieve so that you can be that
所以原子習慣的好處是它基本上把事情分解成你實際上可以實現的迷你目標,這樣你就可以成為
10% that actually keeps your goals as opposed to the 90% that fall off. In James Clear's book, Atomic Habits, he teaches to one, make it obvious, two, make it attractive, three, make it easy,
真正保持目標的10%,而不是放棄的90%。在James Clear的書《原子習慣》中,他教導一,讓它顯而易見,二,讓它有吸引力,三,讓它容易,
and four, make it satisfying. It being the habit. Yeah. And I feel like a really big part of his book is the idea or the concept of being like self-identifying yourself with that
四,讓它令人滿意。它指的是習慣。是的。我覺得他書中一個非常重要的部分是這個想法或概念,就是用那個
habit. So, for example, like being like, "Yeah, I am a person that goes to the gym three times a week." or like, "Yeah, I'm an active person. That's why I go to
習慣來自我認同。所以,例如,像是說,「是的,我是一個每週去健身房三次的人。」或者像是,「是的,我是一個積極的人。這就是為什麼我每週去
the gym three times a week." I think that's like one of his like main premises, right?
健身房三次。」我認為那是他的主要前提之一,對嗎?
>> That's one of the big takeaways. It's like, how do you make that your identity? Like, I am a healthy person.
那是重要收穫之一。就像是,你怎麼讓那成為你的身份?像是,我是一個健康的人。
What would a healthy person do? They would eat healthy. They would go to the gym. And when you embrace that identity, it makes it harder to break the habit.
一個健康的人會做什麼?他們會吃得健康。他們會去健身房。當你接受那個身份,就更難打破這個習慣。
You want to keep going. >> Yeah. So bringing in a personal case study or an example that I bring this into my life is that I have a habit of
你想繼續。是的。所以帶入一個個人案例研究或一個我把這帶入我生活的例子是我有一個習慣
trying to go to the gym every single day for 30 days in a row. It's really hard to not break that chain. But something that I do is that I make it very clear
嘗試連續30天每天去健身房。打破那個鏈條真的很難。但我做的一件事是我讓它非常清楚
and visual. So I have a calendar that shows each day that I go to the gym. I put an X on my calendar and it creates
和視覺化。所以我有一個日曆顯示我每天去健身房。我在日曆上打一個X,這創造了
this chain that I can see right in front of me. I don't want to break the chain.
這個我可以在眼前看到的鏈條。我不想打破這個鏈條。
And it is very satisfying when I go to the gym, I come back and I make an X on my calendar and I'm like, I feel so relieved that I'm able to keep this
當我去健身房後回來在日曆上打一個X,這非常令人滿意,我像是,我感到如此輕鬆我能夠保持這個
going. So, that's one very clear example, James Clear example of how I bring this into my life. And if you guys want to do something similar, Gan and I
進行。所以,這是一個非常清楚的例子,James Clear的例子,關於我如何把這帶入我的生活。如果你們想做類似的事情,Jean和我
have a habit tracker that we created for you. It's a digital downloadable that is linked in this video description. It's free. You can download it. It's a
有一個我們為你創建的習慣追蹤器。它是一個數字下載,鏈接在這個視頻描述中。它是免費的。你可以下載它。它是一個
calendar and it shows all the days of the year so that you can track your habits.
日曆,顯示一年的所有日子,這樣你就可以追蹤你的習慣。
>> Yeah, I think that concept of don't break the chain is pretty like famous and wellknown. It's used by a lot of people. Um, one that I remember is
是的,我認為那個不要打破鏈條的概念相當有名和眾所週知。很多人用它。我記得的一個是
apparently like Jerry Seinfeld. He sort of forced himself to continue to like write more jokes by doing Don't Break the Chain for like every single day. He
顯然像是Jerry Seinfeld。他通過每天做不要打破鏈條來強迫自己繼續寫更多笑話。他
would come up with a new joke and like he would make the X on his calendar to be like, "Okay, I came up with a new joke today. XXX. So that's kind of how
會想出一個新笑話,然後他會在日曆上打X,像是,「好,我今天想出了一個新笑話。XXX。所以這有點像是
he like got better at his craft. >> Yeah. And how do you apply atomic habits to your daily life?
他如何在他的技藝上變得更好的。是的。你怎麼把原子習慣應用到你的日常生活中?
>> Yeah. For me, I think it's the example of once I became single again this past year and I started dating, I was like, okay, the first part of that is just
是的。對我來說,我認為這個例子是,當我過去這一年又變成單身開始約會時,我就像是,好,第一部分就是
like making myself get out there and like interact with people in the world.
讓自己出去,在世界上和人互動。
So I kind of took on the identity of being like, okay, I'm a person that says yes to different invitations. So, even if it's something I would normally maybe
所以我有點採用了那個身份,像是,好,我是一個對不同邀請說好的人。所以,即使是我通常可能
not say yes to, I'm going to say yes to it and like try to aim to go to, you know, three things I would normally not go to like three times a month or
不會說好的事情,我會說好,像是嘗試去,你知道的,每月三次我通常不會去的三件事或
something like that. So, >> like an underground Berlin rave like what do you mean?
類似的。所以,像是一個地下柏林狂歡,你是什麼意思?
>> Sure. Yeah. Like just anything like I need to like kind of, you know, break up the old routine and start doing new things so that I can be like out there
當然。是的。像是任何東西,我需要,你知道的,打破舊的日常,開始做新事情,這樣我就可以在
in the world to meet people. >> True. So that actually it worked really well because I remember um this is like back in February, but one of my friends
世界上認識人。對。所以那實際上效果很好,因為我記得這是像是二月的時候,我的一個朋友
had a Super Bowl party and it was also kind of a going away party and I wasn't I probably like wouldn't usually go cuz I don't really like watch football, I
有一個超級碗派對,也有點像是送別派對,我可能通常不會去,因為我不太看足球,我
guess. But then I went and then I ended up like meeting this guy that was his like childhood friend that I was dating for a while. So I feel like it works and
猜。但然後我去了,然後我最終遇到了這個他的童年朋友,我和他約會了一段時間。所以我覺得它有效,
it all stemmed from me being like taking on the identity of being like, "Yeah, I'm someone who says yes to social invitations even if >> even if maybe in the past I wouldn't
這都源於我採用那個身份,像是,「是的,我是一個對社交邀請說好的人,即使可能過去我不會
have said yes to them." >> Yeah. And when you go out it opens up more opportunity and serendipity to meet new people. So by having that habit and
對它們說好。」是的。當你出去時,它打開了更多機會和偶遇來認識新人。所以通過有那個習慣和
figuring out a way to implement it in your life, it also opened up many new doors.
想出一個在你生活中實施它的方法,它也打開了許多新的門。
>> Yeah. And it's something I guess like it's something you can sort of remind yourself of and take on again and again because I will say like in the last
是的。這是你可以提醒自己並一次又一次採用的東西,因為我會說像是在過去
month like we've been so busy and just like traveling so much like we were like in Japan, we were in Asia, we were at VidCon, like we were just kind of like
一個月我們太忙了,旅行太多,像是我們在日本,我們在亞洲,我們在VidCon,像是我們只是有點
not really, you know, around and just like working all the time that it's almost like this is a really good reminder for me to sort of like take on
不太在,就是一直在工作,這幾乎像是一個很好的提醒讓我重新
that identity again and be like, oh, I'm person that says yes to things so that I'm gonna like go back out there and like be active and meet people in the
採用那個身份,像是,喔,我是一個對事情說好的人,所以我要重新出去,積極地在
world. So, it's like a good reminder for me too, even just doing this episode >> for sure because starting over it has such a scary connotation to it. But I
世界上認識人。所以,對我來說也是一個好的提醒,即使只是做這一集,因為重新開始有一個如此可怕的含義。但我
think one takeaway I would like everyone else to go away with is that starting over doesn't have to be such a big monumental thing. There are also little
認為我想讓其他人帶走的一個收穫是,重新開始不必是一個如此大的紀念性的事情。也有一些小
ways that you can start over and keep your life moving forward. Yeah, >> I think often times people wait until the New Year's for the giant like New Year's resolution in January and that's
方式可以讓你重新開始並讓你的生活繼續前進。是的,我認為經常人們等到新年才有巨大的新年決心在一月,這就是
why everyone gets to the gym then and then people fall off. But like I honestly take, you know, if you can have the beginning of every month being a starting over point or creating
為什麼每個人那時候去健身房然後人們放棄。但像是我老實說認為,你知道的,如果你可以讓每個月初成為一個重新開始的點或創造
checkpoints so it's not just once a year, but giving yourself many opportunities to start a new. I think that's a really beautiful thing. Yeah.
檢查點,這樣不只是一年一次,而是給自己很多機會重新開始。我認為那是一件非常美好的事。是的。
And I think like maybe this is sort of a controversial take or like a hot take or something, but I think starting over and like or more so the concept of
我認為像是也許這是一個有爭議的觀點或熱門觀點或什麼的,但我認為重新開始和像是更多的是
reinventing yourself is really fun and like what a gift, what like a special like what an opportunity we have that we can sort of continually reinvent ourselves all the time. Um I think
重塑自己的概念真的很有趣,多麼好的禮物,多麼特別,多麼好的機會我們有,我們可以持續不斷地重塑自己。我認為
that's something I didn't really realize until >> I I didn't really like realize the power of until recently. Yeah, because change is scary. I think >> Yeah, >> most people psychologically and myself
這是我直到最近才真正意識到的。我直到最近才真正意識到它的力量。是的,因為改變是可怕的。我認為大多數人心理上和我
included do not want change. Like we're very as humans very adverse to change.
自己包括不想要改變。像是作為人類我們非常厭惡改變。
>> Mhm. >> Right. Like we don't want change averse.
嗯。對。像是我們不想改變。厭惡。
>> Did I say that right? Adverse. Averse.
我說對了嗎?厭惡。厭惡。
Averse. We're very change averse. So if it does happen and it's forced upon us, it can be very uncomfortable. But it can also lead to very beautiful things if
厭惡。我們非常厭惡改變。所以如果它確實發生並且是強加給我們的,會非常不舒服。但如果
you take it in stride. And you also have these frameworks that we're talking about to really put in the right frame like frameworks in place so you can be successful.
你從容面對,它也可以帶來非常美好的事物。你也有我們談論的這些框架來真正把正確的框架放到位,這樣你就可以成功。
>> Yeah. Well, and you know how like people always say, "Oh, it's not that I feel scared. It's not that I feel nervous.
是的。嗯,你知道人們總是說,「喔,這不是我覺得害怕。這不是我覺得緊張。
It's that I actually feel excited." >> Yeah. You know, >> that's just a mindset shift.
而是我實際上覺得興奮。」是的。你知道的,那只是一個心態轉變。
>> Yeah. >> So, there are a couple of these things that you can do starting with James Clear's Atomic Habits. And we're going to get into the next topic, which is
是的。所以,有幾件事你可以做,從James Clear的原子習慣開始。我們要進入下一個話題,是
vulnerability with Bnee Brown. I've already been pretty vulnerable.
Brené Brown的脆弱性。我已經很脆弱了。
>> Actually, before we move on, let's do our mini exercise.
實際上,在我們繼續之前,讓我們做我們的小練習。
>> All right, >> which is pick one goal that you have for yourself and then break it down into a bunch of different tiny steps or like
好,就是選一個你對自己有的目標,然後把它分解成一堆不同的小步驟或
very small habits and then figure out a way to make it like James Clear says, obvious, attractive, easy, and satisfying. And then write it down.
非常小的習慣,然後想出一個方法讓它像James Clear說的那樣,顯而易見、有吸引力、容易和令人滿意。然後寫下來。
>> Yes. And we'd love to hear from you if you can share with us in the comments what your goal is and how you're going to try and break it down. We read every
是的。如果你能在評論中和我們分享你的目標是什麼以及你打算如何分解它,我們很想聽。我們讀每一條
single comment and we'll try to reply to as many as we can. Yeah. Because we want to be on this journey together with you.
評論,我們會盡量回覆。是的。因為我們想和你一起踏上這段旅程。
And what we've seen from research from Duke University is that actually 45% so literally almost half of all of your daily actions are habitual. And so let's build the right habits together. And up
從杜克大學的研究中我們看到,實際上45%,所以幾乎一半你所有的日常行為都是習慣性的。所以讓我們一起建立正確的習慣。接下來
next, we're going to talk about how to harness vulnerability through Bnee Brown's research. Okay, let's start off with a stat, which is that 84% of people admitted that they don't even tell their
我們要談談如何通過Brené Brown的研究來利用脆弱性。好,讓我們從一個統計數據開始,就是84%的人承認他們甚至不告訴他們
very closest friends about major life changes because they fear judgment. But what Bnee Brown has found in her research is that vulnerability between especially between friends is what actually strengthens connections. Um,
最親密的朋友重大的人生變化,因為他們害怕被評判。但Brené Brown在她的研究中發現,脆弱性,特別是朋友之間的脆弱性,實際上是加強連結的東西。嗯,
okay, Sheree, maybe you can tell us a little bit more about this framework.
好,Sheree,也許你可以告訴我們更多關於這個框架。
So, I think the first thing to note is that it takes a ton of courage to be vulnerable. It's like a super scary thing to open up. But what people don't
所以,我認為首先要注意的是,脆弱需要大量的勇氣。像是敞開心扉是一件超級可怕的事情。但人們沒有
realize is that it can also open up a lot of opportunities as well. So, the first thing is that if you share what you're going through with people,
意識到的是它也可以打開很多機會。所以,第一件事是如果你和人分享你正在經歷的事情,
especially if you share like a new habit you want to build, it can create a lot of momentum for social accountability.
特別是如果你分享你想建立的新習慣,它可以為社交責任感創造很多動力。
So, you don't have to do it alone. For example, if I want to get healthy for this year and go to the gym, I can share that goal. they can be my social
所以,你不必獨自做。例如,如果我今年想要變得健康去健身房,我可以分享那個目標。他們可以成為我的社交
accountability buddy in that way. >> And another way it can open up opportunities is that if you bring vulnerability into your life, this is one very specific example that I've seen
責任夥伴。另一種它可以打開機會的方式是,如果你把脆弱性帶入你的生活,這是我看到的一個非常具體的例子
is that with recent layoffs that have been going on, people have come onto LinkedIn to post and to share that they've lost their job, which is a really scary thing to share. And
就是最近的裁員,人們在LinkedIn上發帖分享他們失去了工作,這是一件非常可怕的事情要分享。而且
honestly, I don't know if I would be able to do that because I feel a lot of um nervousness and shame around that, which I don't think other people who are
老實說,我不知道我是否能夠做到,因為我對此感到很多緊張和羞恥,我不認為其他正在
reading it feel. they feel more empathy. But if you post about that and share more about your life in a vulnerable way, I've also seen people get job opportunities because they've shared
閱讀它的人會感到。他們更感到同理心。但如果你以脆弱的方式發帖分享更多關於你生活的事情,我也看到人們因為他們分享
about their layoff. >> Yeah, exactly. I love that you bring that up because shame versus empathy is one of those really main constructs in Berne Brown's book, Daring Greatly. And
關於他們的裁員而獲得工作機會。是的,正是。我喜歡你提到那個,因為羞恥對比同理心是Brené Brown書《脆弱的力量》中的主要概念之一。當
when you admit that you're unsure or that you need help, you're really like inviting people in to support you. Um, I think another example that I can think
你承認你不確定或需要幫助時,你真的是在邀請人們來支持你。嗯,我能想到的另一個例子
of for ourselves is just starting on this new venture of Tiger Sisters. Like that's something that I and you have been very very open about to everyone from the very beginning, which is that
對我們自己來說就是開始Tiger Sisters這個新事業。像是這是我和你從一開始就非常非常開放地對每個人說的事情,就是
we're starting this new venture. It's based around a podcast. It's content to commerce. These are all things that we have never done. We've never like actually worked in media before either
我們正在開始這個新事業。它基於一個播客。它是內容到商業。這些都是我們從未做過的事情。我們也從來沒有實際上在媒體行業工作過,我們
of us. We've always worked in tech or finance. And so like I've gone into a lot of conversations being like, "Hey, I don't know anything really or like I
兩個人。我們一直在科技或金融行業工作。所以我在很多對話中就像是,「嘿,我其實什麼都不知道,或者像是我
don't even know what I know. Like I would love to to learn from you." And I think that that has been really helpful for us because we're coming at it from a
甚至不知道我知道什麼。我很想向你學習。」我認為這對我們真的很有幫助,因為我們是從一個
position of or from a perspective of being like we're open to learning. And the first part of that is being like, hey, we admit to not knowing things.
願意學習的立場或觀點來對待它的。而第一部分就是像是,嘿,我們承認不知道的事情。
Like yeah, >> we're not experts by any means. And I think people might view that as a weakness, but I also view that, like we said before, as an invitation for help.
像是是的,我們絕對不是專家。我認為人們可能把那視為弱點,但我也把它視為,像我們之前說的,邀請幫助。
>> And maybe sharing your weaknesses could be a strength as well in that way. if you feel hesitant about sharing your like quoteunquote weakness or like being
也許分享你的弱點也可以成為一種優勢。如果你對分享你所謂的弱點或以那種方式
vulnerable in that way. I guess one way I don't even actively think about it this way, but I think it's just like inherent to my approach to it is that
脆弱感到猶豫。我猜一種方式,我甚至沒有主動這樣想過,但我認為這只是我處理方式的固有方式,就是
I'm like, well, I'm not an expert in this area, but I know I'm an expert in many other areas, right? Like I believe in my own ability and I know I'm smart
我就像是,嗯,我不是這個領域的專家,但我知道我在很多其他領域是專家,對吧?像是我相信我自己的能力,我知道我很聰明
and I know I can like learn. I just have a lot of self-belief, but I just have no experience in this area. So, like there's nothing wrong with being unexperienced,
我知道我可以學習。我只是有很多自信,但我在這個領域沒有經驗。所以,像是沒有經驗沒什麼錯,
>> you know? Um, so maybe that's like a kind of mindset that you can take on if you want to kind of reveal your vulnerability to people to be like,
你知道嗎?嗯,所以也許那是一種你可以採用的心態,如果你想向人們展示你的脆弱性,像是,
yeah, like I am not an expert in this area. I'm an expert in other areas.
是的,像是我不是這個領域的專家。我是其他領域的專家。
>> Well, it's just it's good to >> It's like when a recruiter asks you what your greatest weakness is and you're like, my greatest weakness is that I can
嗯,這只是這很好,當招聘人員問你最大的弱點是什麼時,你就像是,我最大的弱點是我可以
learn anything. My greatest weakness is I don't know everything, but I can learn anything.
學任何東西。我最大的弱點是我不知道所有事情,但我可以學任何東西。
>> Is that what I sound like? >> It's just funny. I mean, but it and I think it's just very naturally how you feel and a very positive outlook because
這是我聽起來的樣子嗎?只是好笑。我是說,但這只是非常自然地你的感受方式和一個非常積極的觀點,因為
you have a lot of self-belief. My greatest weakness is I have too much self.
你有很多自信。我最大的弱點是我有太多自我。
>> You know, it's like when you're trying to make a weakness sound like a strength in an interview.
你知道的,這就像是當你在面試中試圖讓弱點聽起來像優點時。
>> No, that's when you're always like, "My greatest weakness is that I'm a perfectionist." >> Yeah. Don't say that. If you're doing an interview, do not say that because
不,那是當你總是像是,「我最大的弱點是我是完美主義者。」是的。不要那樣說。如果你在面試,不要那樣說,因為
recruiters will see right through it. >> Yeah. And now that I'm older, I'm like, "Wow, that really is a weakness." >> Actually, it's come it's come around full circle. Maybe you can say that
招聘人員會看穿的。是的。現在我老了,我像是,「哇,那真的是一個弱點。」實際上,它又繞回來了。也許你可以再說
again now. Maybe people should say that again now.
一次了。也許人們現在應該再說一次了。
>> I mean, that actually is my weakness.
我是說,那實際上是我的弱點。
I'm not even I'm not even bullshitting. You know, that's my weakness. We talked about it before. It is.
我甚至不是在鬍說。你知道的,那是我的弱點。我們之前談過。是的。
>> It takes me like 10 times longer to write an email than Sheree.
我寫一封郵件比Sheree花的時間長10倍。
>> Shere's like, "Hey, can you do this?
Sheree就像是,「嘿,你能做這個嗎?
Bye." Yeah, my emails are very short and I don't spend more than like if it's a really important one I'll spend a lot of time, but if it's like one I'm just like
拜。」是的,我的郵件非常短,如果是一封非常重要的郵件我會花很多時間,但如果只是像是我就
it could be a few sentences and then you sign off and you don't think about it.
可以是幾句話然後簽名就不去想了。
>> Like good morning to you today. >> She writes like a Shakespeareian sonnet that she reads 15 times over and I'm like girl just send the email out. Just
像是今天早上好。她寫得像莎士比亞十四行詩,她讀15遍,我就像是女孩,就把郵件發出去。就
send it. It It's not It's not that deep.
發出去。沒有那麼深奧。
>> I'm like top of the mourn. >> Yeah.
我就像是清晨好。是的。
>> Okay, >> we digress. >> We digress. Okay, we do have a mini exercise for you.
好,我們跑題了。我們跑題了。好,我們確實有一個小練習給你。
>> Oh yeah. for this section. So, if you can think of one vulnerable moment, we would love for you guys to share that with a trusted friend. We
喔是的。對這個部分。所以,如果你能想到一個脆弱的時刻,我們很希望你們和一個信任的朋友分享。我們
have studies that show that 90% of people who opened up to others feel less lonely. But most importantly, they feel even more motivated to move forward because they've shared something with
有研究顯示90%向他人敞開心扉的人感到不那麼孤獨。但更重要的是,他們感到更有動力向前進,因為他們和
their friend and they have more social accountability in that way. After you've shared with your friend, observe how this impacts your mindset and tell us in the comments.
他們的朋友分享了一些東西,他們有更多的社交責任感。在你和朋友分享後,觀察這如何影響你的心態,在評論中告訴我們。
Harvard Business Review actually found that leaders who practice vulnerability such as admitting to a mistake or asking for feedback are 20% more likely to foster high performing teams. So like
哈佛商業評論實際上發現,實踐脆弱性的領導者,如承認錯誤或尋求反饋,更有可能培養高績效團隊20%。所以像是
however that you know is defined. They did this whole study about it. So it's not just in your like personal life that where it's it's um fruitful and actually effective to practice vulnerability.
不管那是如何定義的。他們對此做了完整的研究。所以不只是在你的個人生活中脆弱性是有成效的和有效的。
It's also can be applied in your career and your work life strategically. Okay, we're gonna take a really quick break and then when we return, we move on to
它也可以戰略性地應用在你的職業和工作生活中。好,我們要休息一下,然後當我們回來時,我們繼續
Esther Pel's idea of rewriting your story. Hey, it's Sheree. If you've been enjoying Tiger Sisters, hit subscribe on Spotify and YouTube. And please leave us a five-star review. It takes just a few
Esther Perel的重寫你的故事的想法。嘿,我是Sheree。如果你一直在享受Tiger Sisters,在Spotify和YouTube上點擊訂閱。請給我們留下五星評價。這只需要幾
seconds, but it has a huge impact on helping Tiger Sisters survive and grow.
秒鐘,但它對幫助Tiger Sisters生存和成長有巨大的影響。
Thank you so much. And now back to the episode. I'm really excited to talk about this because I think reinvention should be part of everyone's life. And we talked a little bit about this
非常感謝。現在回到節目。我真的很興奮談論這個,因為我認為重塑應該是每個人生活的一部分。我們之前稍微談過這個,
before, but if you think about the major celebrities out there like Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Leonardo DiCaprio, I think all of these not the Leonardo DiCaprio, >> Miley Cyrus,
但如果你想想那些主要的名人,像是Lady Gaga、Taylor Swift、Leonardo DiCaprio,我認為所有這些,不是Leonardo DiCaprio,Miley Cyrus,
>> Miley Cyrus, you don't like Leonardo DiCaprio.
Miley Cyrus,你不喜歡Leonardo DiCaprio。
>> Just I don't know where you're going with Leonardo DiCaprio.
只是我不知道你要說什麼關於Leonardo DiCaprio。
>> I feel like he constantly reinvents himself in the roles that he takes. Oh, I thought you were like, first he's someone who dated a 27y old, then he's
我覺得他在他接的角色中不斷重塑自己。喔,我以為你在說,首先他是和27歲的人約會,然後他是
someone who dated a 24y old. >> No, I mean, and Christian Bale, I don't know. I just like feel like when you look at celebrities and the longevity of
和24歲的人約會。不,我是說,還有Christian Bale,我不知道。我只是覺得當你看名人和他們職業生涯的長久性時
their careers, the ones that have staying power are the people who can reinvent themselves constantly.
那些有持久力的人是那些可以不斷重塑自己的人。
>> Um, like Miley Cyrus. >> Like Miley Cyrus. I love that. Go girl.
嗯,像是Miley Cyrus。像是Miley Cyrus。我喜歡這個。加油女孩。
Go girl. >> She's incredible. >> Yeah. I mean, if Leonardo DiCaprio were to reinvent himself and date someone a little bit older, I think that might also
加油女孩。她太厲害了。是的。我是說,如果Leonardo DiCaprio重塑自己並和年紀大一點的人約會,我認為那也可能
>> have some staying power, too. Yeah. In the media. Um, but alas, but I think this is just so fun because we can talk about reinventing ourselves at any point in our lives.
有一些持久力。是的。在媒體上。嗯,但可惜,但我認為這太有趣了,因為我們可以在人生的任何時刻談論重塑自己。
>> And the concept um from Esther Prell is not just reinventing yourself, but it's specifically the idea of rewriting your story, right? Rewriting your narrative.
Esther Perel的概念不只是重塑自己,而是具體地重寫你的故事,對吧?重寫你的敘事。
>> Exactly. In Esther Pearll's book, Mating in Captivity, she specifically talks about this concept in the sort of framework of romantic relationships. So, basically, she says, you know, you can
正是。在Esther Perel的書《親密陷阱》中,她在浪漫關係的框架中具體談到了這個概念。所以,基本上,她說,你知道的,你可以
rewrite your story because if you're not the same person now that you were in your 20s, why do you have to be the same person romantically?
重寫你的故事,因為如果你現在不是你20多歲時的同一個人,為什麼你在浪漫方面必須是同一個人?
>> Mhm. Often times, we forget, I forget that we outgrow different patterns from earlier in our lives. And that could be dating, that could be friendship and outgrowing relationships and
嗯。經常,我們忘了,我忘了我們會超越人生早期的不同模式。那可能是約會,可能是友誼和超越關係和
friendships. That's very much a thing that I have to keep top of mind because it can feel super painful when it happens. But that's part of growth in it
友誼。那非常是一個我必須記住的事情,因為當它發生時會感覺非常痛苦。但那本身就是成長的一部分
of itself. And in her book, Esther Prell says that you can reframe your identity as someone who fails in relationships or friendships to someone who learns from past mistakes and actively builds
在她的書中,Esther Perel說你可以把你的身份從一個在關係或友誼中失敗的人重新定義為一個從過去的錯誤中學習並積極建立
healthier dynamics. And I feel like this mindset shift is gamechanging because honestly, relationships fail because you're dating, but like at the end game, you're only supposed to marry one
更健康動態的人。我覺得這個心態轉變是改變遊戲規則的,因為老實說,關係失敗是因為你在約會,但在最終遊戲中,你只應該嫁給一個
person. You know what I mean? So like they're supposed to fail up until you find the one.
人。你懂我的意思嗎?所以像是它們應該失敗,直到你找到那個人。
>> So I think that's like just a reframe of it all, right? Like they're meant to You're supposed to date many, many people.
所以我認為那只是對所有這些的重新定義,對吧?像是它們就是應該。你應該和很多很多人約會。
>> So you're saying we should romantically fail upwards.
所以你是說我們應該在浪漫上向上失敗。
>> Yes. Exactly. Fail. Take a page out of the book of every man you've ever worked with.
是的。正是。失敗。從你曾經共事過的每個男人的書中取一頁。
>> Oh my god. >> And fail upwards romantically.
天哪。並在浪漫上向上失敗。
>> Yeah. I mean, I I think that I realized this or maybe I like internalized this very recently.
是的。我是說,我認為我最近才意識到這個或者可能是內化了這個。
>> Yeah. >> Like not you're not supposed to keep all your relationships, >> right?
是的。像是你不應該保持所有的關係,對吧?
>> You can only keep one at the end.
你最終只能保持一個。
They're all supposed to fail except for one.
它們都應該失敗,除了一個。
>> Yeah. And this actually reminded me of the um James Clear framework because she's saying like reframe yourself as you know someone who learns from relationships and sets up new healthier
是的。這實際上讓我想起了James Clear的框架,因為她說像是把自己重新定義為一個從關係中學習並建立新的更健康
ones. That's the same idea of taking on the identity. Yeah. Internalizing.
關係的人。這是同樣的想法,採用那個身份。是的。內化。
>> I am someone who learns from past relationships and forms healthier ones.
我是一個從過去的關係中學習並形成更健康關係的人。
>> Exactly. >> Wow. Putting together all the frameworks connecting the dots live. Do we're doing it live.
正是。哇。把所有框架放在一起,連接點,現場直播。我們正在現場直播。
>> You're here with us. >> You're doing it live.
你和我們在一起。你正在現場直播。
>> Okay. I feel like one example I could sort of uniquely give is that I've mentioned before I ended an 8-year long relationship and engagement um this past
好。我覺得一個我可以獨特給出的例子是我之前提到過我在過去
year when I was 35. So I guess like one way you could look at yourself is to be like oh my god like I'm someone who breaks engagements and has like a failed
這一年我35歲時結束了一段8年的關係和訂婚。所以我猜像是一種你可以看待自己的方式是像是天哪,我是一個打破訂婚並且有一個失敗的
like fails in broke one. So I feel like if you've broken multiple Allah runaway bride you might take that identity.
像是失敗。打破了一個。所以我覺得如果你打破過多個像是《落跑新娘》你可能會採用那個身份。
don't be so hard on yourself. >> Or like you could be like, you know, you could think of yourself, one could think of themselves as like, oh, I'm someone
不要對自己太苛刻。或者像是你可以像是,你知道的,你可以認為自己,一個人可以認為自己像是,喔,我是一個
who fails in relationships. Or maybe you can think of yourself, by you, I mean me.
在關係中失敗的人。或者也許你可以認為自己,說你,我是說我。
You can think of yourself as like, wow, I'm someone who is brave enough and, you know, I guess sure enough of herself to end a eight-yearong relationship, even when it
你可以認為自己像是,哇,我是一個足夠勇敢的人,你知道的,我猜足夠確定自己結束一段八年的關係,即使它
seems like from the outside seems to be perfect on paper seems to be so great and like you've already invested so much into it. I'm someone who's brave enough
從外面看起來在紙面上似乎是完美的,似乎是如此好,像是你已經在它上面投入了這麼多。我是一個足夠勇敢的人
to um step away from that in search of something that is actually better for me. Like when this is actually something that no longer works.
去離開那個,尋找對我來說實際上更好的東西。像是當這實際上是不再有效的東西時。
>> It takes a lot of courage. It takes a lot of courage. You You are someone who is courageous. That's a very courageous thing to do.
這需要很多勇氣。這需要很多勇氣。你是一個勇敢的人。那是一件非常勇敢的事。
>> Yeah. Yeah. I just came up with that just now, guys. I was not just came up with that just now. But yeah, >> you feel that? Do you feel that in your
是的。是的。我剛剛才想出那個,各位。我不是剛剛才想出那個。但是的,你感受到了嗎?你在你的
bones or is it hard to internalize that?
骨子裡感受到了嗎,還是很難內化那個?
I mean, it's not something honestly like it's not something that I've ever said out loud. Like this is the first time I've ever really said that out loud. But
我是說,老實說這不是我曾經大聲說出來的東西。像是這是我第一次真正大聲說出來。但
it is something that other people have said to me. Like when I have told people, you know, oh yeah, like I broke my engagement, like we were together for
這是其他人對我說過的。像是當我告訴人們,你知道的,喔是的,像是我打破了我的訂婚,像是我們在一起
eight years, blah blah blah, they're like, wow, like you are so brave. Like you're so courageous. And not in a way where they're like, >> "You're so brave for posting that
八年,諸如此類,他們就像是,哇,你太勇敢了。你太勇敢了。不是那種他們像是,「你這麼勇敢發那個
without makeup. You're so brave to wear. >> You're so brave for wearing that bathing suit, >> that outfit. I could never wear that." But you're so brave.
不化妝的照片。你這麼勇敢穿那個泳衣,那套衣服。我永遠不會穿那個。」但你太勇敢了。
>> But no, I like when people say it to me, like I can tell that they really mean it because it is something that is so scary. Like it's so it's it's kind of
但不是,我喜歡當人們對我說這個,像是我能感覺到他們真的是這麼想的,因為這是如此可怕的事情。像是它太它有點
incomprehensible. And even to myself, like even to me two years ago, three years ago, like a year and a half ago, it would have been incomprehensible.
難以理解。甚至對我自己,像是甚至對兩年前、三年前、一年半前的我來說,這是難以理解的。
>> But like we said earlier, that was a different person.
但像我們之前說的,那是一個不同的人。
>> Like that's that was a different person.
像是那是一個不同的人。
>> I was a different person. That was like the old me. Now this is the new me. I'm reinvented, >> What you going to say about
我是一個不同的人。那是像是舊的我。現在這是新的我。我重塑了,你要怎麼說
>> What you going to do about it? What you going to do about that?
你要怎麼辦?你要怎麼辦?
>> Yeah. This is your reinvention era in so many ways.
是的。這是你在很多方面的重塑時代。
>> Yeah. >> And it's you guys are a part of it. It's live. It's happening. Um I think an interesting like exercise people could do. This is not the official mini
是的。而且你們是其中的一部分。它是現場的。它正在發生。嗯,我認為一個有趣的,像是人們可以做的練習。這不是官方的小
exercise. This is the side mini exercise I just side quest I just came up with.
練習。這是我剛剛想出的支線小練習。
>> If you guys are inspired to do so, >> is that like maybe you can sort of go through that same exercise I just did.
如果你們受到啟發想這樣做,就是像是也許你可以經歷我剛剛做的同樣的練習。
And if there's something that you're still, I guess, like processing or like a part of you that is starting over is to like think of what other people say
如果有一些你還在,我猜,像是處理中的事情,或者像是你正在重新開始的一部分,就是想想當你告訴他們關於你的改變或你的重塑或你的新敘事時其他人對
to you when you tell them about your change or your like reinvention or your new narrative and then start to like say like say that out loud about yourself
你說什麼,然後開始像是大聲對自己說那個
for the first time like I just did it.
第一次,像我剛剛做的。
It's kind of wild. Like I've never said that about myself to be like, "Yeah, and I'm really courageous and brave for choosing to do what I did as opposed to,
這有點瘋狂。像是我從來沒有對自己說過那個,像是,「是的,我真的很勇敢和勇敢選擇做我做的事,而不是,
you know, staying in a relationship that seemed that seemed perfect in so many ways." It's weird. It's weird to like I think it's good though to like say it out loud
你知道的,待在一段在很多方面看起來似乎完美的關係中。」這很奇怪。像是我認為這很好,大聲說出來
and like take on the identity and like experience how other people are viewing you.
並採用那個身份,體驗其他人如何看待你。
>> Yeah. Because in some ways I feel like people can see you more clearly than you can see yourself.
是的。因為在某些方面我覺得人們可以比你自己更清楚地看到你。
>> Not the situation but just like your perception of yourself >> and people are able to and at least the ones who are able to share that with you
不是情況,但只是像是你對自己的看法,而且人們能夠,至少那些能夠和你分享那個的人
>> um that you really respect or like wait I respect you and you respect me now and like wait now I can understand what you see.
嗯,你真正尊重的或像是等等我尊重你而你尊重我,現在像是等等現在我可以理解你看到的。
>> It's a crazy thing. >> Yeah. That's the off the books mini exercise.
這是一件瘋狂的事。是的。那是非官方的小練習。
>> Bonus mini exercise. >> Bonus mini exercise.
額外小練習。額外小練習。
>> Great. We'll give that to you for free.
太好了。那個我們免費給你。
So, the official exercise, if you'd like to try another one, is to write down the old story that no longer serves you. Put it down on paper and rewrite it in a way
所以,官方練習,如果你想嘗試另一個,是寫下不再為你服務的舊故事。把它寫在紙上,用一種
that reflects your growth and your future aspirations. What is your new story, your new narrative that you're going to tell yourself? Share that story with a friend or with us in the comments
反映你的成長和你未來志向的方式重寫它。你的新故事、你要告訴自己的新敘事是什麼?和朋友或在評論中和我們分享那個故事
if you're open to getting feedback and having Gene and I read that. Um, so yeah, we'd love to see what you guys come up with. Okay, so just to recap, in
如果你願意獲得反饋並讓Jean和我閱讀。嗯,所以是的,我們很想看看你們想出什麼。好,所以只是回顧一下,在
today's episode, we covered James Clear's Atomic Habits, Bnee Brown's concepts of vulnerability, and Esther Prell's ideas around rewriting your narrative. And I think putting the three together, this is like the perfect
今天的節目中,我們涵蓋了James Clear的原子習慣、Brené Brown的脆弱性概念,以及Esther Perel關於重寫你敘事的想法。我認為把這三個放在一起,這就像是完美的
toolkit for starting over, whether you're 29, 36, or any age. Thank you guys so much for tuning in for this episode. Please remember to like, comment, and subscribe. It is super
重新開始的工具包,無論你是29歲、36歲還是任何年齡。非常感謝你們收聽這一集。請記得點贊、評論和訂閱。這是超級
important if you follow and subscribe us because then you'll get notified when our next episode drops.
重要的,如果你關注和訂閱我們,因為這樣你會在下一集發布時收到通知。
>> Yeah. And I also really want to hear what you guys have to say in the comments, especially because um I spoke so much about my own experience this
是的。我也真的很想聽你們在評論中說什麼,特別是因為這次我講了這麼多關於我自己的經歷。
time. So like I want to hear you guys talk about your >> she's being vulnerable. If you like that Jean's being vulnerable and opening up about her life and I'm opening up about
所以像是我想聽你們談談你們的,她正在脆弱。如果你喜歡Jean正在脆弱並敞開心扉談論她的生活,我正在敞開心扉談論
mine, please give her some support in the comments.
我的,請在評論中給她一些支持。
>> We read every single >> part of our community. We want to know you guys are out there and also the conversations I think are really rich
我們讀每一條,這是我們社區的一部分。我們想知道你們在那裡,而且我認為對話真的很豐富
and a lot of other people are reading other comments as well and feeling very encouraged by your story.
很多其他人也在閱讀其他評論,並且對你的故事感到非常鼓勵。
>> Thanks guys. See you next time. >> Bye.
謝謝各位。下次見。拜拜。
>> That's part two. We are so proud of those two episodes and now you guys have both the emotional map and the practical toolkit. Okay, we know that's a lot. So
那是第二部分。我們為那兩集感到非常自豪,現在你們有了情感地圖和實用工具包。好,我們知道那很多。所以
don't try to do all of those six frameworks at once. Just pick one and do that exercise today. And if you really want some structure from us, do this.
不要試圖一次做所有那六個框架。只選一個,今天做那個練習。如果你真的想要我們給的一些結構,這樣做。
Day one, transition. Day two, growth mindset. Day three, prototype. Day four, habits. Day five, vulnerability. Day six, rewrite your story. And day seven, reflect. And also, don't keep this to
第一天,過渡。第二天,成長心態。第三天,原型。第四天,習慣。第五天,脆弱性。第六天,重寫你的故事。第七天,反思。而且,不要把這個留給
yourself. We're not gatekeeping. If you know someone who's in a new season of change, send this episode to them. Also, please tell us in the comments what aspect in your life you're starting over
自己。我們不是在藏私。如果你認識正處於改變新季節的人,把這一集發給他們。還有,請在評論中告訴我們你在生活的哪個方面正在重新開始。
in. It could be big, it could be small, it could be something totally trivial.
可以是大的,可以是小的,可以是完全瑣碎的事。
We really, really want to hear from you guys. We read all the comments and we're in it with you. If you guys have a second, please like and subscribe. It's
我們真的非常想聽你們說什麼。我們讀所有評論,我們和你們在一起。如果你們有一秒鐘,請點贊和訂閱。
so important that you guys subscribe and if you have 5 seconds, please rate us five stars because this really helps with the survival and growth of Tiger Sisters podcast. We'll see you guys next
如果你們有5秒鐘,請給我們五星評價,因為這對Tiger Sisters播客的生存和成長真的很有幫助。我們下週見。
week. will be here with you every single week. Bye >> bye.
我們每週都會在這裡陪你。拜拜。拜拜。
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If you want the road map for a total life reset, you are in the right place.
如果你想要一個完整人生重啟的路線圖,你來對地方了。
If you're feeling behind, heartbroken, stuck, or in some weird in between, this is your reset playbook because starting over isn't just one singular decision.
如果你感覺落後、心碎、卡住,或處於某種奇怪的中間狀態,這是你的重啟手冊,因為重新開始不只是一個單一的決定。
It's emotional. It's habits. It's health. It's identity. It's love. We're doing this episode at the end of the year because this is when life slows down naturally and you can actually have
它是情感的。它是習慣。它是健康。它是身份。它是愛。我們在年底做這一集是因為這是生活自然放慢的時候,你實際上可以有
some time to reflect. But even if you're listening to this in January, March, or like a random Tuesday, it all applies.
一些時間來反思。但即使你是在一月、三月或某個隨機的星期二聽這個,這些都適用。
Starting over doesn't require the new year or January 1st. Give us 60 minutes and we will give you six frameworks that cover both the emotional and the practical side of starting over.
重新開始不需要新年或一月一日。給我們 60 分鐘,我們會給你六個框架,涵蓋重新開始的情感和實際兩方面。
Everything from career, life, love, and habits. You don't need motivation. You need a system. You're not behind. You're in transition. In part one, we talk about the emotional map. William Bridg's
從職業、生活、愛情到習慣的一切。你不需要動力。你需要一個系統。你沒有落後。你正在過渡。在第一部分,我們談論情感地圖。William Bridges 的
transitions. Carol Dwek's mindset and designing your life. And part two is the toolkit that you can use immediately.
過渡理論。Carol Dweck 的心態和設計你的生活。第二部分是你可以立即使用的工具包。
Atomic habits, vulnerability by Bnee Brown and Rewriting Your Narrative by Esther Prell. And we also have many exercises throughout so you're not just listening, you're doing the work with
原子習慣,Brené Brown 的脆弱,和 Esther Perel 的重寫你的敘事。我們在整個過程中也有很多練習,所以你不只是在聽,你是在和
us. A quick note, we actually released these episodes 4 months ago and 7 months ago. We still use the frameworks and reflect on them. So whether you're starting over in your career, in love
我們一起做這些工作。快速說明,我們實際上在 4 個月前和 7 個月前發布了這些集數。我們仍然使用這些框架並反思它們。所以無論你是在職業上重新開始,在愛情中
after a breakup, after a layoff, or you just want to reinvent yourself, this is the ultimate road map. Rewrite the story that no longer serves you. Let's get into it.
分手後、被裁員後,或你只是想重塑自己,這是終極路線圖。重寫那個不再服務你的故事。讓我們開始吧。
Today's episode is presented by SoFi, the all-in-one finance app that allows you to bank, borrow, and invest your money in one place. and we're back. So,
今天的節目由 SoFi 贊助,這是一個一體化的金融應用程式,讓你可以在一個地方進行銀行、借貸和投資。我們回來了。所以,
one of the reasons why we want to talk about this topic is because transitions happen all the time. Especially when you're in your early 20s and 30s, I
我們想談這個話題的原因之一是因為過渡一直在發生。特別是當你在 20 歲出頭和 30 歲的時候,我
would say when you're coming out of school, so much of my identity, both professional and personal, was built around my career, for better or for worse. And when something big happens,
會說當你剛出學校時,我的身份,無論是專業的還是個人的,很大程度上都是圍繞我的職業建立的,不管是好是壞。當發生大事時,
like a transition, I didn't really have the tools to handle it. So, I'm so glad we're talking about this in this episode. The first framework that we're going to be talking about is William
比如一個過渡,我真的沒有工具來處理它。所以,我很高興我們在這一集中談論這個。我們要談的第一個框架是 William
Bridg's transition framework. So William Bridges in his book transitions says that change is actually external. So that's something like changing jobs while transition is actually an internal process. So William Bridges actually
Bridges 的過渡框架。William Bridges 在他的書《過渡》中說改變實際上是外在的。所以那是像換工作這樣的事情,而過渡實際上是一個內在的過程。William Bridges 實際上
outlines three stages. There's ending, neutral zone, and new beginnings. I really love this framework and especially how it names and like titles each of the stages. So often people,
概述了三個階段。有結束、中性區和新開始。我真的很喜歡這個框架,特別是它如何命名和標題每個階段。很多時候人們,
including me, will rush to the new beginning and not even process what just happened. Whether it's a career change, whether it's a change in relationship or a friendship. I think for me, since I'm
包括我,會急於進入新開始而不處理剛剛發生的事情。無論是職業變化、關係或友誼的變化。我認為對我來說,因為我
such like a go go go type a person, I'm like, "Okay, how do I execute and just do the next thing?" Because honestly, that's what keeps me from processing
是這麼一個永不停歇的 A 型人格,我會說,「好的,我怎麼執行然後做下一件事?」因為老實說,這是讓我不用處理
like a lot of the like hurtful or bad or sad emotions. But so much of it is staying in the neutral zone, reflecting before starting in the new beginning.
很多傷害或糟糕或悲傷情緒的原因。但很多是停留在中性區,在開始新開始之前反思。
One thing we wanted to do throughout this episode in every section as we talk about each framework is actually give kind of personal anecdotes as like a version of like case studies kind of
我們想在這一集的每個部分做的一件事是,當我們談論每個框架時,實際上給出個人軼事作為案例研究的一個版本,有點
like how we did in our earlier episodes where for the case studies we talked about different companies or brands.
像我們在早期集數中做的,那時案例研究我們談論的是不同的公司或品牌。
This time we're going to talk like use ourselves as a case studies. So for me, for example, I've shared before that at age 35, I ended my engagement after an
這次我們要用自己作為案例研究。所以對我來說,例如,我之前分享過在 35 歲時,我在一段
eight-year long relationship. Um, so that obviously was the ending part of this framework. And as I moved into the neutral zone, I felt like really lost in
八年的關係後結束了我的訂婚。嗯,所以那顯然是這個框架的結束部分。當我進入中性區時,我在
a lot of ways because it wasn't just the ending of a relationship. It was like the ending of the entire sort of conception of my life and like all of
很多方面感到非常迷失,因為這不只是一段關係的結束。這是整個對我生活的構想的結束,以及所有
the next steps of my life where obviously I was going to get married, we were going to have kids, we were going to, you know, live happily ever after
我對自己是誰的理解。我必須重新定義自己。誰是沒有那段關係的 Jean?
together. But only by actually being in and like slowly working through the mire of the neutral zone was I finally able to emerge out to the the new beginning,
這是一個非常困難的過程。但這個中性區是你真正做內在工作的地方。
which is like now like this is my new beginning. This is so so different than anything I've ever done before. But I don't think I ever would have been able
你呢 Sheree?你有沒有一個你經歷過的過渡想要分享?
to arrive here had I not gone through the process of like being sort of like feeling stuck in the neutral zone and like trying all these new different
是的。對我來說,是離開我在 LinkedIn 的工作。我在那裡待了五年。那是我大學畢業後的第一份工作。
things which we'll talk about in the later frameworks and just like really being in it for sort of like quite a what felt like quite a while. It felt
我的整個身份都圍繞著成為一名 LinkedIn 員工。當我離開時,我不知道我是誰了。
like a long time to me because I'm also a really I think inherently impatient person. But I think that's why the neutral zone is so difficult >> because sometimes it can feel like when
中性區對我來說真的很不舒服。我想立即跳到下一件事。但我必須允許自己坐在不確定中。
you're in the neutral zone, not a lot is happening daytoday because like you know in my neutral zone I'm like journaling.
這是這個框架如此強大的地方。它給你許可停留在那個中性區。
I'm going to the gym things feel slow but when that compounds over time when you're like super reflective I'm like oh something worked something happened.
讓我們繼續第二個框架。Carol Dweck 的心態。
Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah. And okay, not not to forget that I also right before ending my engagement had just left my job at Snapchat as head
Carol Dweck 是史丹佛的心理學家,她寫了這本叫《心態》的書。她談到固定心態和成長心態。
of product. And that was after working at Snap for over seven for seven years and having worked in corporate for pretty much my entire professional life.
固定心態是當你相信你的能力是固定的。你要麼有它,要麼沒有。你不能改變。
So it was like a big it was like multiple like huge transitions and changes at the same time.
成長心態是當你相信你的能力可以通過努力和學習發展。你可以變得更好。
>> That's really scary. Yeah, it was scary, guys. It was scary.
這與重新開始有什麼關係?當你重新開始時,你需要一個成長心態。
>> And then I moved in. >> Yeah. Yeah.
如果你有固定心態,你會認為「我已經太老了不能改變」或「我就是這樣的人」。
>> And we became roommates and we started this new venture together.
但有成長心態,你會說「我可以學習新技能」「我可以重塑自己」。
>> Yeah. Yeah. New beginnings. >> And we also want to give you another example of someone you might have heard of, Steve Jobs. The Steve Jobs story is
這是一個強大的重新框架。讓我們做一個迷你練習。
pretty infamous. He was ousted by the board at Apple. He basically lost control of his company. He was kicked out and that was technically his ending.
想想你生活中一個你有固定心態的領域。可能是職業、關係或技能。
As the lore goes, he then spent years in the creative wilderness where it was the neutral zone. He was reflecting and figuring out his next moves. And then he triumphantly returned to Apple, which
現在用成長心態的語言重新框架它。不是「我不擅長」,而是「我還沒擅長,但我可以學習」。
was his new beginning. It just underscores how the neutral zone can be a place for fresh ideas and for setting you up for your next starting over
這是一個小改變但它產生了很大的影響。讓我們繼續第三個框架。設計你的生活。
point. We also wanted to in this episode give many exercises so that you could actually practice the framework IRL. So, the one for transitions is to jot down
這來自一本同名的書,由 Bill Burnett 和 Dave Evans 寫的。他們都是史丹佛的設計教授。
one area of your life that you feel like there is an impending ending or is like actually ending or has just ended. And then write down how you feel about it.
核心思想是你可以用設計思維的原則來設計你的生活。你不需要有完美的計劃。你可以原型化、測試和迭代。
And then next, write down one possibility that could bloom if you actually fully embrace the neutral zone.
這太解放了。特別是對於那些感覺卡住的人因為他們不知道「正確」的道路是什麼。
And we'd love to learn about what you guys write if you're open to sharing with us in the comments. After you finish this exercise, we'd love to hear
這本書中最有力的工具之一是奧德賽計劃。你為你的未來設計三個不同的五年計劃。
from you in the comments about your new possibilities. And just a reminder, this transition framework can apply to so many things. It can apply to career, romance, friendship, basically anything.
計劃一是你目前的道路。如果你繼續做你正在做的,五年後你會在哪裡?
So, it's a time for reflection. And up next, we'll talk about Carol Dwek's growth mindset framework. So, I'm really excited to talk about this topic. I read
計劃二是如果計劃一消失了你會做什麼。如果你不能做你目前的工作,你會做什麼?
this book a long time ago, and Carol Dwek is actually a professor at Stanford, so I hold this very close to my heart. In Carol Dwek's book, she talks about two different types of
計劃三是瘋狂的夢想。如果錢和別人的看法不是問題,你會做什麼?
mindset. a fixed mindset or a growth mindset. And a fixed mindset is basically believing within yourself either I'm good at something or I'm not.
這個練習打開了可能性。它向你展示你有選擇。
A growth mindset is that I can learn something and with enough effort and perseverance I can figure it out. And I think what's really important to distinguish is that some people
讓我們進入第二部分。工具包。
ironically are like, oh, like I'm not a growth mindset person or I am a growth mindset person. That actually goes against the entire concept of growth mindset because you're not one person or
第一個工具是原子習慣,由 James Clear 寫的。這是關於通過小改變建立好習慣並打破壞習慣。
another. It's just a mindset. So anybody, even if you previously had a fixed mindset, you can adopt a growth mindset going forward.
核心思想是 1% 的改善會隨著時間複利。你不需要做出巨大的改變。只需每天變好 1%。
>> A growth mindset to adopt a growth mindset.
當你重新開始時,這很重要。你不需要一夜之間改變一切。從小處開始。
>> Yes. Exactly. But that's just something that I want to emphasize because like sometimes people are so like, you know, like sort of like been in their ways for
他有一個叫做習慣堆疊的概念。你把新習慣疊加在現有習慣上。所以如果你想冥想,你把它附在早晨的咖啡上。
so long. They've been in that fixed mindset for such a long time that they almost couldn't imagine themselves being a growth mindset person. But it's just a mindset shift. It's not inherent to your
這讓建立新習慣更容易因為你不是從零開始。你在利用你已經在做的事情。
being. You know what I mean? People with growth mindset are able to push through obstacles, whereas people with a more fixed mindset, when they're faced with obstacles, they're like, "Oh god, this
第二個工具是脆弱,由 Brené Brown 寫的。她談到脆弱是力量,不是弱點。
is just another reason why, you know, XYZ can't happen." Like it feels like they're very stuck. And instead of seeing an obstacle as something that you can like go around or figure out, it's
當你重新開始時,你必須脆弱。你必須承認你不知道所有的答案。你必須尋求幫助。
just an obstacle in their way. >> And so I felt a huge need to develop a growth mindset. although I didn't have this terminology for it in college and I
這對高成就者來說很難。我們習慣了掌控。但脆弱是連結和成長所必需的。
especially felt this when I was studying computer science >> and because I was able to, you know, major in computer science, really tough it out and seek all the resources and
第三個工具是重寫你的敘事,由 Esther Perel 啟發。她是一位著名的治療師,談論我們講述關於自己的故事。
study and work my ass off for it. I'm just like I was able to do that. I feel like I'm able to do anything now.
我們都有一個關於我們是誰和我們如何到達這裡的敘事。但那個敘事並不總是服務於我們。
>> And it's like given me a growth mindset that like I can do hard things. And it actually kind of even more than that.
當你重新開始時,你有機會重寫那個敘事。你不必被你的過去定義。
I'm like I did that was like the hardest thing of my life doing like you know all-nighters and studying it like it was a grueling major for me and I'm so happy
這是一個強大的工具。讓我們做一個練習。
I did it and I enjoyed it along the way but I'm like if I can do that I can basically do anything.
想想你關於自己講述的一個故事。可能是「我總是搞砸關係」或「我不擅長金錢」。
>> And that is just like where my growth mindset is like rooted so deeply in my body that I'm like any challenge I can figure it out.
現在重新框架它。不是「我總是搞砸關係」,而是「我還在學習如何成為更好的伴侶」。
>> Yeah. You know I so relate to that. I think that having a growth mindset is actually one of my like self-identified most defining factors actually because I
這個重新框架改變了一切。它從固定變成成長。從受害者變成主角。
feel like if I hadn't had a growth mindset, I never would have taken the path that I did because even honestly my first job out of school working at
讓我們用一些最後的想法結束。
Goldman, I took that job like not even really knowing how to use Excel. I swear to God I I swear I did not know how to
重新開始很難。這是情感化的。這是混亂的。但這也是一個巨大成長的機會。
use Excel except for like we used it a few times in these statistics class like statistics and econometrics classes that I had to take. But that's different like than
記住這些框架。過渡。心態。設計你的生活。原子習慣。脆弱。重寫你的敘事。
>> it's different than creating like a DCF model or something.
你不是落後。你正在過渡。你不需要動力。你需要一個系統。
>> It's actually it's different from actually using Excel in like a workplace setting where you have to do it as fast as you can and as accurately as you can.
我們希望這一集對你有幫助。如果你喜歡它,請訂閱 Tiger Sisters 播客。
So like I sort of like threw myself into the deep end and like threw myself to the wolves in a way and I was able to eventually like learn like to be clear I
在 Spotify 和 Apple Podcasts 上給我們五星評價。分享就是關愛。
was never became like an Excel wiz. I was never even in the top 50% of people who were like good at using Excel at work, especially as an analyst, but I
感謝收聽。我們下次見。
was able to still be a very good top performing analyst. And because I was able to like do that, that's how I even had the courage to be like, hey, yeah,
拜拜。
like I'll be a product manager. Like there are a lot like lot of things I don't know about product management.
像是我會成為產品經理。像是有很多很多關於產品管理的事情我不知道。
Well, I don't know anything about product management actually, but I feel like I have the inherent skill to be able to learn things quickly and work
嗯,我其實對產品管理一無所知,但我覺得我有與生俱來的技能能夠快速學習東西和努力
hard and try my best and like all these these other things so that like I will learn how to be an excellent product manager just like I learned how to be an
工作和盡我所能,像是所有這些其他事情,所以我會學會成為一個優秀的產品經理,就像我學會成為一個優秀的
excellent, you know, financial analyst at Goldman Sachs. And then like same thing for like everything in our lives, even what we're doing now. Like I've never been in front of the camera
你知道的,高盛的優秀金融分析師。然後像是對我們生活中的所有事情都一樣,甚至包括我們現在做的。像是我以前從來沒有在鏡頭前
before. I've never like talked about my personal life and my experiences or like shared my learnings with people before, but I'm like, "Yeah, I can do it." Like,
從來沒有像是談論過我的個人生活和經歷,或者像是和別人分享過我的心得,但我就像是「是的,我可以做到。」像是,
I don't know. I don't know. I hope I'm hope I'm doing a good job with, you know, up to you guys.
我不知道。我不知道。我希望我做得好,你知道的,由你們來判斷。
>> Leave nice comments for Jean. We She We read every single one of them. If you like Jean being on camera, she's vulnerable. She's taking, you know, a
給Jean留下好評論。我們會讀每一條評論。如果你喜歡Jean出鏡,她很脆弱。她正在,你知道的,
lot of courage to be here. We love that.
鼓起很大勇氣來到這裡。我們喜歡這樣。
We love I'm still new to this, guys, but but I was just like, "Sure, I'll do it." Like, I'll just throw myself into it and I think it'll be fun and I'll be
我們喜歡,我對這個還是新手,各位,但我就像是「好啊,我來做。」像是,我就投入其中,我覺得會很有趣,我會
developing a new a new skill and like a new side of me and it's been really fun and I'm >> it's very rewarding. So, I think all of
發展一種新技能,像是我新的一面,這真的很有趣,而且非常有回報。所以,我覺得所有
that like my entire career can be sort of chocked up to the fact that I had a growth mindset that any of this stuff even happened.
那些,像是我的整個職業生涯都可以歸結為一個事實,就是我有成長心態,這些事情才會發生。
>> Yeah. And also what we're working on now with Sisters Matcha, our matcha brand that we started like last July, August, like we have only worked in like digital products for our professional careers,
是的。還有我們現在在做的Sisters Matcha,我們去年七八月開始的抹茶品牌,我們整個職業生涯只做過數位產品,
right? So like we are product managers at tech companies, but now we have a CPG company, a consumer packaged good. It's like a physical thing that we're selling
對吧?所以我們是科技公司的產品經理,但現在我們有一家CPG公司,消費包裝品。這像是一個我們在賣的實體東西
and it's also a consumable, which is so different from >> so wild guys. wild to me >> and also so fun.
而且它還是消耗品,這和之前完全不同,太瘋狂了各位。對我來說太瘋狂了,而且也超有趣。
>> It's so fun. Yeah. >> If you if what we're saying kind of resonates with you and you're like you like challenges and you like learning, then like a growth mindset is a great
太有趣了。是的。如果我們說的和你產生共鳴,你喜歡挑戰和學習,那麼成長心態是一個很好的
thing to adopt so that you continuously learn more and also learn faster. Like in this last year, we're doing completely new things and I'm having the
可以採納的東西,這樣你可以持續學習更多,也學得更快。像是在過去這一年,我們在做完全新的事情,我正在擁有
time of my life. It is so fun and it's so scary too. Like on the other side of it, it's just like, holy crap, I'm doing things I've never done before. I don't
我人生中最棒的時光。這太有趣了,也太可怕了。像是在另一面,就像是,天啊,我在做我從來沒做過的事。我不
know if I'm doing it right. >> I don't know if I'm doing like a good job of it.
知道我做得對不對。我不知道我做得好不好。
>> We don't know anyone in the industry to like help us. Like, we're kind of just like figuring it out. Like, you know how people are saying you're like building
我們不認識業內任何人可以幫助我們。像是,我們只是在摸索。像是,你知道人們說的,你像是在一邊造飛機
the airplane and flying it as you go.
一邊飛。
It's kind of what we're doing. >> But also like I like it. In addition to like not knowing, I'm also trying my hardest and because I believe in it and
這有點像我們在做的。但我也喜歡這樣。除了不知道之外,我也在盡我最大努力,因為我相信它,
love it so much that like I can try my hardest and give 120% with no regrets.
非常喜歡它,所以我可以盡最大努力,付出120%,沒有遺憾。
You know what I mean? Cuz we're working for ourselves. I wouldn't give 120% if I were working for the man. But you know what I mean? Like I just wouldn't care
你懂我的意思嗎?因為我們是為自己工作。如果我是為別人工作,我不會付出120%。但你懂我的意思嗎?我就是不會那麼
as much. So I guess with the growth mindset, it's just like fulfilling so much of what I care about. And I'm so excited to have a growth mindset, too.
在乎。所以我猜有了成長心態,它就是滿足了我在乎的這麼多東西。我很興奮能有成長心態。
Um yeah. And I guess the last thing I'll say on a more personal note when I am looking for a partner and like in dating someone romantically.
嗯是的。我猜最後我想說的,在更私人的層面,當我在找伴侶和約會的時候。
>> Oh. Oh. >> I >> we do say our podcast is about money, power, and love.
喔。喔。我們確實說過我們的播客是關於錢、權力和愛的。
>> Yes. And so this is the love component.
是的。所以這是愛的部分。
I will only be with a person if they have a growth mindset.
我只會和一個有成長心態的人在一起。
>> Like they because a growth mindset is important for work. That's kind of what we're talking about. But it's also so important for relationships instead of someone being like this is who like if
像是因為成長心態對工作很重要。這有點像我們在談論的。但對關係也非常重要,與其某人說這就是我,像是如果
we fight or get into an argument like this is who I am blah blah blah like don't try to change me like I'm not trying to change anyone but we should be
我們吵架或有爭執,像是這就是我,諸如此類,像是不要試圖改變我。我不是要改變任何人,但我們應該
able to grow together if we're like going to be a pair. We need to be able to move in the same direction and that can mean both of us being flexible and
能夠一起成長,如果我們要成為一對。我們需要能夠朝同一個方向前進,這可能意味著我們雙方都要靈活和
growing and learning together. I totally agree because aside from the aspect of where you're I don't know like if you're in an argument or something with someone
一起成長和學習。我完全同意,因為除了你在,我不知道,像是如果你和某人爭吵的那個方面
who has a fixed versus growth mindset, I think it's just like your everyday interactions with someone. I feel like it's almost kind of like a person who's
那個人有固定心態還是成長心態,我覺得這只是像是你和某人的日常互動。我覺得這幾乎有點像是一個人
a default no versus a person who's like default yes.
默認是說不的,對比一個默認是說好的人。
>> Yeah. >> Right. Like or even just like a default maybe. Like you know what I mean? Just like not a hard no.
是的。對。或者甚至只是默認也許。像是你懂我的意思嗎?就是不是硬性的不。
>> Yeah. >> Which is just more fun to live that way.
是的。這樣生活更有趣。
>> Yeah. Like I recently Should I tell a personal story?
是的。像是我最近,我要講一個私人故事嗎?
>> Oh my god, I'm scared. I'm like terrified. I don't know what's gonna come out of your mouth.
天哪,我好怕。我像是很害怕。我不知道你要說什麼。
>> Okay, if it's not good, we can cut it.
好吧,如果不好,我們可以剪掉。
But no, this is just random. I recently was supposed to go to this Broadway rave with my girlfriend who loves Broadway, like obsessed with Broadway. And we like
但不是,這只是隨便說說。我最近本來要和我喜歡百老匯的女性朋友去這個百老匯狂歡,像是對百老匯癡迷。我們
found this Broadway rave. So we were like, lol, like this is hilarious. And then my other friend was supposed to come. She couldn't come at the last
發現了這個百老匯狂歡。所以我們就像是,哈哈,這太搞笑了。然後我另一個朋友本來要來。她最後一刻來不了。
minute. So I was going to go from a date to this Broadway rave, but since we had this extra ticket, I just asked my date.
所以我本來要從約會去這個百老匯狂歡,但因為我們有這張多餘的票,我就問了我的約會對象。
I was like, "Hey, like do you want to come to this Broadway rave with me?" And like this is not a person who I think has like ever like not a Broadway
我就像是,「嘿,你想和我去這個百老匯狂歡嗎?」像是這不是一個我覺得,像是從來不是一個百老匯
person, not a theater person at all. And he was just like, "Yeah, sure. Yeah, that'll be fun." And then he went and he had like the time of his life. And
人,完全不是戲劇人。他就說,「好啊,當然。是的,那會很有趣。」然後他去了,他玩得超開心。而且
>> is that growth mindset or does he just like you >> or does he just want to spend more time with you?
這是成長心態還是他只是喜歡你,或者他只是想和你多待一會?
>> I thought it was growth mindset. >> Well, I'm glad you >> maybe it's a combination.
我以為是成長心態。嗯,我很高興你,也許是兩者的結合。
>> It's a combination of both. And >> wow, my Long Island accent is coming out for some reason because I'm embarrassed.
是兩者的結合。而且,哇,我的長島口音因為某種原因出來了,因為我不好意思。
>> It's a combination. Um, and I'm glad you told that story cuz that was a safe story. I didn't know. I really didn't know.
是結合。嗯,我很高興你講了那個故事,因為那是個安全的故事。我不知道。我真的不知道。
>> What kind of stories did you think I was going to tell? We won't go there.
你以為我要講什麼故事?我們不去那裡。
>> Should we keep it in? Should we Should we keep this in?
我們應該保留嗎?我們應該保留這個嗎?
>> That's for subscribers only. >> Just kidding. We don't have a subscription service. But anyway, >> should we >> I I wanted to say on the love part,
那是只給訂閱者的。開玩笑。我們沒有訂閱服務。但無論如何,我想在愛的部分說,
another personal anecdote um is that I have um a two friends who are married and um they were telling me more about their relationship and a mantra that
另一個私人軼事是我有兩個朋友是已婚的,他們告訴我更多關於他們的關係,有一個他們分享的座右銘
like they share is they ask each other after a long day, they both work, they ask each other like how can I love you better?
就是他們在漫長的一天後會問對方,他們都工作,他們問對方,我怎麼能更好地愛你?
>> Whoa. >> Yes. Yes. >> Who day? Tell me later. beep and beep.
哇。是的。是的。誰?以後告訴我。嗶和嗶。
Um, and they're like, you know, happily married, recently married, but like that's something that's been a fixture of their relationship is that they ask each other that. And I love the story or
嗯,他們,你知道的,幸福地結婚了,最近結婚的,但這是他們關係的一個固定部分,就是他們會問對方這個。我喜歡這個故事或
just even that mantra because like I aspire to have a relationship like that where it's so rooted in growth and like how can I be better? Not that I'm doing
甚至只是那個座右銘,因為我嚮往有那樣的關係,根植於成長,像是我怎麼能更好?不是我做錯了
anything wrong, but I just want to like continually grow and be better and like love you better. I think that's a very beautiful thing.
什麼,但我只是想持續成長和變得更好,更好地愛你。我覺得那是非常美好的事情。
>> It's so intentional. It is. I want that.
這太有意圖了。是的。我想要那個。
I want that for me. >> She's Yeah. She wants the book. She wants the, you know, >> you know.
我想要那個給我。她想要那本書。她想要,你知道的,你知道的。
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How can I love you better every day? How can I love you better every day?
是的。是的。我怎麼能每天更好地愛你?我怎麼能每天更好地愛你?
>> Um, >> don't answer that. >> Okay. Okay. And before we move on to the next framework, just a really quick mini exercise for you guys to do is one,
嗯,不要回答那個。好。好。在我們繼續下一個框架之前,給你們一個非常快速的小練習,一是
identify a limiting belief that you have and then two, rewrite it with a growth mindset approach. So, an example of this, we talked about it in one of our
識別你有的一個限制性信念,然後二,用成長心態的方法重寫它。所以,這個的一個例子,我們在之前的
previous episodes, but I learned this at Stanford and it's basically manifestation but better. Um, one of our one of my professors, Joel Peterson, he has these mantras and they were based
節目中談過,但我在史丹佛學到的,基本上是更好的顯化。我的一個教授,Joel Peterson,他有這些座右銘,它們是基於
off of his previous limiting beliefs. So, for example, one of his limiting beliefs is that he thought he was a very emotional person, like he let his emotions get the best of him sometimes.
他之前的限制性信念。所以,例如,他的一個限制性信念是他認為自己是一個非常情緒化的人,像是他有時候讓情緒控制了他。
So, he turned that around and instead of having his emotions control him, his new mantra or what he, you know, how he talks to himself is he says, "I am not
所以,他把它反過來,不是讓情緒控制他,他的新座右銘或他對自己說的話是,「我不是
my emotions." So, that's just one very quick example of a limiting belief that you might have and one way to turn it on its head.
我的情緒。」所以,這只是一個關於你可能有的限制性信念的非常快速的例子,以及一個把它反轉的方法。
>> Now, try the exercise on your own and let us know in the comments what you write down. I feel like a teacher. The last framework we're going to talk about
現在,自己嘗試這個練習,在評論中告訴我們你寫下了什麼。我感覺像個老師。我們今天要談的最後一個框架
today is a concept popularized by Stamford called design thinking. This framework called designing your life helps you cut wasted time by allowing you to quickly test your ideas. They
是史丹佛推廣的一個概念,叫設計思維。這個叫做設計你的人生的框架通過讓你快速測試想法來幫助你減少浪費的時間。他們
have a book and also a class at Stanford where they teach this to students. I didn't get the chance to take the class at Stanford but many of my friends did.
有一本書,在史丹佛也有一門課教學生這個。我沒有機會在史丹佛上那門課,但我很多朋友上了。
And the four parts of this framework are as follows. The first is curiosity. The second is prototyping experiences. The third is reframing problems. And the fourth is radical collaboration. H. So
這個框架的四個部分如下。第一是好奇心。第二是原型體驗。第三是重構問題。第四是激進合作。所以
this framework emphasizes action and taking small experiments over like endless thought exercises and pondering.
這個框架強調行動和進行小實驗,而不是無止盡的思考練習和沉思。
So one way I applied this framework in my own life is that after I finally left Snap after working there for seven years, I wanted to try out a bunch of
所以我在自己生活中應用這個框架的一個方式是,在我終於離開Snap工作了七年後,我想嘗試一堆
different things that basically I'd never done in my life. Like I was kind of trying to figure out what I want to do next before I decided to start this
我人生中從未做過的不同事情。像是我在試圖弄清楚我接下來想做什麼,在我決定和
company with Sheree Sisters Worldwide. And um one thing that I have always loved is fashion. And like basically at every point in my life where I could um
Sheree一起創辦這家公司Sisters Worldwide之前。而且有一件我一直喜歡的事是時尚。基本上在我人生中每一個我可以
do like take on a job or like a new career before aside from the job that I actually ended up doing, I looked at many different like roles in fashion. So
做的時候,像是接受一份工作或新的職業,除了我實際上最終做的工作,我看了很多時尚行業的不同職位。所以
finally I had this opportunity to like work in fashion. So, what I ended up doing is I took this unpaid internship where I worked at a place called the
終於我有這個機會去從事時尚行業。所以,我最終做的是我接受了這個無薪實習,在一個叫
Albbright Fashion Library in LA in LA where I actually worked as a stylist.
洛杉磯Albright時尚圖書館的地方,在洛杉磯,我實際上是作為造型師工作。
And it was like the one of the most fun and like fulfilling things I've ever done. And it's not like it was like particularly glamorous. Like I feel
這是我做過的最有趣和最有成就感的事情之一。而且不是說它特別光鮮亮麗。像是我覺得
like, you know, 20% of the time my job was to like rearrange the like massive shoe closet. So, like it's not like I was, you know, like doing like a super
你知道的,20%的時間我的工作是重新整理那個巨大的鞋子收納間。所以,像是不是說我,你知道的,像是在做像是超級
highpowered like job at, you know, a Parisian couture house or something like that, but it was just so fun to be able to like be in the industry and finally
高端的工作在,你知道的,巴黎高級定製時裝屋或什麼的,但能夠在這個行業裡並終於
test out this hypothesis that I had had for like 20some years of like, do I actually want to work in the fashion industry or do I just want to be, you
測試這個我持有了像是20多年的假設,真的太有趣了,就是我真的想在時尚行業工作嗎,還是我只是想成為,你
know, like a participant through sort of like consumption and enjoying it. So that was something where yeah like I basically like invented this internship for myself where I worked there one day
知道的,像是通過消費和享受來參與的人。所以那是,是的,我基本上為自己發明了這個實習,我每週在那裡工作一天
a week for the whole day. It shows to me how actionoriented you are and kind of to tie together this uh framework with the first framework that we talked about
整天。這向我展示了你有多行動導向,並且把這個框架和我們談到的第一個框架
with transitions. I think it's really important that after doing some reflection and you know you were in the neutral zone, figuring out what you want to do next, you were able to test out
關於過渡聯繫起來。我認為在做了一些反思之後,你知道你處於中性區,弄清楚你接下來想做什麼,你能夠通過實習測試
this new beginning with an internship. It was like a mini test to see if you liked it or not. Um, and to see, you know, what your next moves would be
這個新的開始。這像是一個迷你測試,看你是否喜歡。嗯,看看,你知道的,在你從外部世界收集信息後你的下一步行動是什麼
after you gather information from the external world. So, I think it's so cool that you were able to, >> you know, um, reflect and then figure out your next moves.
所以,我認為你能夠,你知道的,嗯,反思然後弄清楚你的下一步行動是如此酷。
>> Yeah. and then also like create this opportunity for myself.
是的。然後也像是為自己創造這個機會。
>> A lot of people in general I think feel very paralyzed. I know I often do if like I'm stuck and I'm like I don't know what to do next. So that like having
我認為一般來說很多人感到非常癱瘓。我知道我經常這樣,如果像是我被卡住了,我像是我不知道接下來該做什麼。所以像是有
this design thinking framework allows you to break out of the paralysis and be like let me at least test something and try something because I know with a
這個設計思維框架讓你能夠打破癱瘓,然後就像是讓我至少測試一些東西,嘗試一些東西,因為我知道有
growth mindset I will learn something no matter if it goes well or not. I might fail and that's fine, but that means I'm learning.
成長心態,不管結果好不好我都會學到東西。我可能會失敗,那也沒關係,但那意味著我在學習。
>> Yeah. I love how you tied those mindsets together. That's very nice.
是的。我喜歡你把那些心態聯繫在一起。那非常好。
>> Thank you. >> Well done. Brava. Okay, so now it's time for the mini exercise. So the mini exercise for this is to think about an area that you
謝謝。做得好。太棒了。好,所以現在是小練習時間。所以這個的小練習是想一個你
want to pivot and then next brainstorm two experiments you can do. They can be like really really tiny experiments.
想要轉型的領域,然後接下來腦力激盪兩個你可以做的實驗。它們可以是非常非常小的實驗。
They don't have to be massive, but think about two experiments that you can do to actually test out the pivot. And if you want, you can share your pivot or you
它們不必是巨大的,但想想兩個你可以做的實驗來實際測試這個轉型。如果你願意,你可以分享你的轉型或你
can share your experiment in the comments so that you can have some social accountability. We'll be reading them.
可以在評論中分享你的實驗,這樣你可以有一些社交責任感。我們會讀它們。
>> Yeah. And if you leave a comment about it, I we will read them and respond to them.
是的。如果你留下關於它的評論,我們會讀它們並回覆它們。
>> Oo, yeah. So, should we wrap up, Sheree?
喔,是的。所以,我們應該總結一下嗎,Sheree?
>> Yes, we should. To wrap up, we talked about three frameworks today. one, the William Bridges transition framework.
是的,我們應該。總結一下,我們今天談了三個框架。一,William Bridges過渡框架。
Two, Carol Dwek's growth mindset framework. And three, Bill Bernett and Dave Evans design your life framework.
二,Carol Dweck的成長心態框架。三,Bill Burnett和Dave Evans的設計你的人生框架。
>> So, you can think about these individually or you can try and combine them. But we hope this was really helpful for you guys. Yeah. And if you
所以,你可以單獨思考這些,或者你可以嘗試把它們結合起來。但我們希望這對你們真的有幫助。是的。如果你
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It's a long list, but you know, you can do all of them. We believe in you. Thank you guys so much for supporting our podcast and for tuning in. We'll see you next time.
是一個很長的清單,但你知道的,你可以全部做到。我們相信你。非常感謝你們支持我們的播客和收聽。下次見。
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拜拜。拜拜。讓我們坦白說。背負高利率的信用卡債務會讓人感覺不可能擺脫。你付款,但餘額幾乎不動。
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感謝今天的贊助商SoFi。他們可以幫助你終於掌控局面。有了SoFi個人貸款,你可以把所有信用卡債務合併成一個低固定月付款。而且沒有
prepayment fees and no late fees. Funding is fast. Get 5,000 to $100,000 as soon as the same day you sign. Or SoFi can pay off your credit cards directly. SoFi's already helped members
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your payments and save on interest, head to sofi.com/tiger or click the link below to see how much you can save. That's sofi.com/tiger.
你的付款並節省利息,前往sofi.com/tiger或點擊下面的鏈接看看你能省多少。那就是sofi.com/tiger。
Okay, pause. That was the emotional map of starting over. And like we mentioned before, if you're in it right now, you are not crazy if it feels so slow to
好,暫停。那是重新開始的情感地圖。像我們之前提到的,如果你現在正處於其中,你不是瘋了如果它感覺對你來說很慢。
you. Because the neutral zone, like we were talking about before, is where things actually build. Now, we're switching to the daily operating system.
因為中性區,像我們之前談到的,是真正建設的地方。現在,我們要切換到日常操作系統。
This is what really moves you forward when you're in the thick of it. Atomic habits, vulnerability, and rewriting your narrative. This is the toolkit.
這是當你深陷其中時真正推動你前進的東西。原子習慣、脆弱性和重寫你的故事。這是工具包。
Welcome back. So, the first topic we're going to go over is James Clear's Atomic Habits and why it's relevant for starting over. I'm so excited to talk
歡迎回來。所以,我們要講的第一個話題是James Clear的《原子習慣》以及它為什麼與重新開始相關。我很興奮談論
about this. I read this book a few years ago, and it's still something that I think about every single week. Experts say that 90% of people who start a new
這個。我幾年前讀了這本書,這仍然是我每週都會想到的東西。專家說90%開始新
habit end up quitting at day 10. And we're going to show you how to be that successful 10% that sticks with it.
習慣的人最終在第10天放棄。我們會向你展示如何成為堅持下去的成功的10%。
Yeah. Because when reinventing yourself, huge goals can be kind of paralyzing.
是的。因為在重塑自己時,巨大的目標可能會讓人癱瘓。
And so the good thing about atomic habits is that essentially it breaks things down into mini goals that you can actually achieve so that you can be that
所以原子習慣的好處是它基本上把事情分解成你實際上可以實現的迷你目標,這樣你就可以成為
10% that actually keeps your goals as opposed to the 90% that fall off. In James Clear's book, Atomic Habits, he teaches to one, make it obvious, two, make it attractive, three, make it easy,
真正保持目標的10%,而不是放棄的90%。在James Clear的書《原子習慣》中,他教導一,讓它顯而易見,二,讓它有吸引力,三,讓它容易,
and four, make it satisfying. It being the habit. Yeah. And I feel like a really big part of his book is the idea or the concept of being like self-identifying yourself with that
四,讓它令人滿意。它指的是習慣。是的。我覺得他書中一個非常重要的部分是這個想法或概念,就是用那個
habit. So, for example, like being like, "Yeah, I am a person that goes to the gym three times a week." or like, "Yeah, I'm an active person. That's why I go to
習慣來自我認同。所以,例如,像是說,「是的,我是一個每週去健身房三次的人。」或者像是,「是的,我是一個積極的人。這就是為什麼我每週去
the gym three times a week." I think that's like one of his like main premises, right?
健身房三次。」我認為那是他的主要前提之一,對嗎?
>> That's one of the big takeaways. It's like, how do you make that your identity? Like, I am a healthy person.
那是重要收穫之一。就像是,你怎麼讓那成為你的身份?像是,我是一個健康的人。
What would a healthy person do? They would eat healthy. They would go to the gym. And when you embrace that identity, it makes it harder to break the habit.
一個健康的人會做什麼?他們會吃得健康。他們會去健身房。當你接受那個身份,就更難打破這個習慣。
You want to keep going. >> Yeah. So bringing in a personal case study or an example that I bring this into my life is that I have a habit of
你想繼續。是的。所以帶入一個個人案例研究或一個我把這帶入我生活的例子是我有一個習慣
trying to go to the gym every single day for 30 days in a row. It's really hard to not break that chain. But something that I do is that I make it very clear
嘗試連續30天每天去健身房。打破那個鏈條真的很難。但我做的一件事是我讓它非常清楚
and visual. So I have a calendar that shows each day that I go to the gym. I put an X on my calendar and it creates
和視覺化。所以我有一個日曆顯示我每天去健身房。我在日曆上打一個X,這創造了
this chain that I can see right in front of me. I don't want to break the chain.
這個我可以在眼前看到的鏈條。我不想打破這個鏈條。
And it is very satisfying when I go to the gym, I come back and I make an X on my calendar and I'm like, I feel so relieved that I'm able to keep this
當我去健身房後回來在日曆上打一個X,這非常令人滿意,我像是,我感到如此輕鬆我能夠保持這個
going. So, that's one very clear example, James Clear example of how I bring this into my life. And if you guys want to do something similar, Gan and I
進行。所以,這是一個非常清楚的例子,James Clear的例子,關於我如何把這帶入我的生活。如果你們想做類似的事情,Jean和我
have a habit tracker that we created for you. It's a digital downloadable that is linked in this video description. It's free. You can download it. It's a
有一個我們為你創建的習慣追蹤器。它是一個數字下載,鏈接在這個視頻描述中。它是免費的。你可以下載它。它是一個
calendar and it shows all the days of the year so that you can track your habits.
日曆,顯示一年的所有日子,這樣你就可以追蹤你的習慣。
>> Yeah, I think that concept of don't break the chain is pretty like famous and wellknown. It's used by a lot of people. Um, one that I remember is
是的,我認為那個不要打破鏈條的概念相當有名和眾所週知。很多人用它。我記得的一個是
apparently like Jerry Seinfeld. He sort of forced himself to continue to like write more jokes by doing Don't Break the Chain for like every single day. He
顯然像是Jerry Seinfeld。他通過每天做不要打破鏈條來強迫自己繼續寫更多笑話。他
would come up with a new joke and like he would make the X on his calendar to be like, "Okay, I came up with a new joke today. XXX. So that's kind of how
會想出一個新笑話,然後他會在日曆上打X,像是,「好,我今天想出了一個新笑話。XXX。所以這有點像是
he like got better at his craft. >> Yeah. And how do you apply atomic habits to your daily life?
他如何在他的技藝上變得更好的。是的。你怎麼把原子習慣應用到你的日常生活中?
>> Yeah. For me, I think it's the example of once I became single again this past year and I started dating, I was like, okay, the first part of that is just
是的。對我來說,我認為這個例子是,當我過去這一年又變成單身開始約會時,我就像是,好,第一部分就是
like making myself get out there and like interact with people in the world.
讓自己出去,在世界上和人互動。
So I kind of took on the identity of being like, okay, I'm a person that says yes to different invitations. So, even if it's something I would normally maybe
所以我有點採用了那個身份,像是,好,我是一個對不同邀請說好的人。所以,即使是我通常可能
not say yes to, I'm going to say yes to it and like try to aim to go to, you know, three things I would normally not go to like three times a month or
不會說好的事情,我會說好,像是嘗試去,你知道的,每月三次我通常不會去的三件事或
something like that. So, >> like an underground Berlin rave like what do you mean?
類似的。所以,像是一個地下柏林狂歡,你是什麼意思?
>> Sure. Yeah. Like just anything like I need to like kind of, you know, break up the old routine and start doing new things so that I can be like out there
當然。是的。像是任何東西,我需要,你知道的,打破舊的日常,開始做新事情,這樣我就可以在
in the world to meet people. >> True. So that actually it worked really well because I remember um this is like back in February, but one of my friends
世界上認識人。對。所以那實際上效果很好,因為我記得這是像是二月的時候,我的一個朋友
had a Super Bowl party and it was also kind of a going away party and I wasn't I probably like wouldn't usually go cuz I don't really like watch football, I
有一個超級碗派對,也有點像是送別派對,我可能通常不會去,因為我不太看足球,我
guess. But then I went and then I ended up like meeting this guy that was his like childhood friend that I was dating for a while. So I feel like it works and
猜。但然後我去了,然後我最終遇到了這個他的童年朋友,我和他約會了一段時間。所以我覺得它有效,
it all stemmed from me being like taking on the identity of being like, "Yeah, I'm someone who says yes to social invitations even if >> even if maybe in the past I wouldn't
這都源於我採用那個身份,像是,「是的,我是一個對社交邀請說好的人,即使可能過去我不會
have said yes to them." >> Yeah. And when you go out it opens up more opportunity and serendipity to meet new people. So by having that habit and
對它們說好。」是的。當你出去時,它打開了更多機會和偶遇來認識新人。所以通過有那個習慣和
figuring out a way to implement it in your life, it also opened up many new doors.
想出一個在你生活中實施它的方法,它也打開了許多新的門。
>> Yeah. And it's something I guess like it's something you can sort of remind yourself of and take on again and again because I will say like in the last
是的。這是你可以提醒自己並一次又一次採用的東西,因為我會說像是在過去
month like we've been so busy and just like traveling so much like we were like in Japan, we were in Asia, we were at VidCon, like we were just kind of like
一個月我們太忙了,旅行太多,像是我們在日本,我們在亞洲,我們在VidCon,像是我們只是有點
not really, you know, around and just like working all the time that it's almost like this is a really good reminder for me to sort of like take on
不太在,就是一直在工作,這幾乎像是一個很好的提醒讓我重新
that identity again and be like, oh, I'm person that says yes to things so that I'm gonna like go back out there and like be active and meet people in the
採用那個身份,像是,喔,我是一個對事情說好的人,所以我要重新出去,積極地在
world. So, it's like a good reminder for me too, even just doing this episode >> for sure because starting over it has such a scary connotation to it. But I
世界上認識人。所以,對我來說也是一個好的提醒,即使只是做這一集,因為重新開始有一個如此可怕的含義。但我
think one takeaway I would like everyone else to go away with is that starting over doesn't have to be such a big monumental thing. There are also little
認為我想讓其他人帶走的一個收穫是,重新開始不必是一個如此大的紀念性的事情。也有一些小
ways that you can start over and keep your life moving forward. Yeah, >> I think often times people wait until the New Year's for the giant like New Year's resolution in January and that's
方式可以讓你重新開始並讓你的生活繼續前進。是的,我認為經常人們等到新年才有巨大的新年決心在一月,這就是
why everyone gets to the gym then and then people fall off. But like I honestly take, you know, if you can have the beginning of every month being a starting over point or creating
為什麼每個人那時候去健身房然後人們放棄。但像是我老實說認為,你知道的,如果你可以讓每個月初成為一個重新開始的點或創造
checkpoints so it's not just once a year, but giving yourself many opportunities to start a new. I think that's a really beautiful thing. Yeah.
檢查點,這樣不只是一年一次,而是給自己很多機會重新開始。我認為那是一件非常美好的事。是的。
And I think like maybe this is sort of a controversial take or like a hot take or something, but I think starting over and like or more so the concept of
我認為像是也許這是一個有爭議的觀點或熱門觀點或什麼的,但我認為重新開始和像是更多的是
reinventing yourself is really fun and like what a gift, what like a special like what an opportunity we have that we can sort of continually reinvent ourselves all the time. Um I think
重塑自己的概念真的很有趣,多麼好的禮物,多麼特別,多麼好的機會我們有,我們可以持續不斷地重塑自己。我認為
that's something I didn't really realize until >> I I didn't really like realize the power of until recently. Yeah, because change is scary. I think >> Yeah, >> most people psychologically and myself
這是我直到最近才真正意識到的。我直到最近才真正意識到它的力量。是的,因為改變是可怕的。我認為大多數人心理上和我
included do not want change. Like we're very as humans very adverse to change.
自己包括不想要改變。像是作為人類我們非常厭惡改變。
>> Mhm. >> Right. Like we don't want change averse.
嗯。對。像是我們不想改變。厭惡。
>> Did I say that right? Adverse. Averse.
我說對了嗎?厭惡。厭惡。
Averse. We're very change averse. So if it does happen and it's forced upon us, it can be very uncomfortable. But it can also lead to very beautiful things if
厭惡。我們非常厭惡改變。所以如果它確實發生並且是強加給我們的,會非常不舒服。但如果
you take it in stride. And you also have these frameworks that we're talking about to really put in the right frame like frameworks in place so you can be successful.
你從容面對,它也可以帶來非常美好的事物。你也有我們談論的這些框架來真正把正確的框架放到位,這樣你就可以成功。
>> Yeah. Well, and you know how like people always say, "Oh, it's not that I feel scared. It's not that I feel nervous.
是的。嗯,你知道人們總是說,「喔,這不是我覺得害怕。這不是我覺得緊張。
It's that I actually feel excited." >> Yeah. You know, >> that's just a mindset shift.
而是我實際上覺得興奮。」是的。你知道的,那只是一個心態轉變。
>> Yeah. >> So, there are a couple of these things that you can do starting with James Clear's Atomic Habits. And we're going to get into the next topic, which is
是的。所以,有幾件事你可以做,從James Clear的原子習慣開始。我們要進入下一個話題,是
vulnerability with Bnee Brown. I've already been pretty vulnerable.
Brené Brown的脆弱性。我已經很脆弱了。
>> Actually, before we move on, let's do our mini exercise.
實際上,在我們繼續之前,讓我們做我們的小練習。
>> All right, >> which is pick one goal that you have for yourself and then break it down into a bunch of different tiny steps or like
好,就是選一個你對自己有的目標,然後把它分解成一堆不同的小步驟或
very small habits and then figure out a way to make it like James Clear says, obvious, attractive, easy, and satisfying. And then write it down.
非常小的習慣,然後想出一個方法讓它像James Clear說的那樣,顯而易見、有吸引力、容易和令人滿意。然後寫下來。
>> Yes. And we'd love to hear from you if you can share with us in the comments what your goal is and how you're going to try and break it down. We read every
是的。如果你能在評論中和我們分享你的目標是什麼以及你打算如何分解它,我們很想聽。我們讀每一條
single comment and we'll try to reply to as many as we can. Yeah. Because we want to be on this journey together with you.
評論,我們會盡量回覆。是的。因為我們想和你一起踏上這段旅程。
And what we've seen from research from Duke University is that actually 45% so literally almost half of all of your daily actions are habitual. And so let's build the right habits together. And up
從杜克大學的研究中我們看到,實際上45%,所以幾乎一半你所有的日常行為都是習慣性的。所以讓我們一起建立正確的習慣。接下來
next, we're going to talk about how to harness vulnerability through Bnee Brown's research. Okay, let's start off with a stat, which is that 84% of people admitted that they don't even tell their
我們要談談如何通過Brené Brown的研究來利用脆弱性。好,讓我們從一個統計數據開始,就是84%的人承認他們甚至不告訴他們
very closest friends about major life changes because they fear judgment. But what Bnee Brown has found in her research is that vulnerability between especially between friends is what actually strengthens connections. Um,
最親密的朋友重大的人生變化,因為他們害怕被評判。但Brené Brown在她的研究中發現,脆弱性,特別是朋友之間的脆弱性,實際上是加強連結的東西。嗯,
okay, Sheree, maybe you can tell us a little bit more about this framework.
好,Sheree,也許你可以告訴我們更多關於這個框架。
So, I think the first thing to note is that it takes a ton of courage to be vulnerable. It's like a super scary thing to open up. But what people don't
所以,我認為首先要注意的是,脆弱需要大量的勇氣。像是敞開心扉是一件超級可怕的事情。但人們沒有
realize is that it can also open up a lot of opportunities as well. So, the first thing is that if you share what you're going through with people,
意識到的是它也可以打開很多機會。所以,第一件事是如果你和人分享你正在經歷的事情,
especially if you share like a new habit you want to build, it can create a lot of momentum for social accountability.
特別是如果你分享你想建立的新習慣,它可以為社交責任感創造很多動力。
So, you don't have to do it alone. For example, if I want to get healthy for this year and go to the gym, I can share that goal. they can be my social
所以,你不必獨自做。例如,如果我今年想要變得健康去健身房,我可以分享那個目標。他們可以成為我的社交
accountability buddy in that way. >> And another way it can open up opportunities is that if you bring vulnerability into your life, this is one very specific example that I've seen
責任夥伴。另一種它可以打開機會的方式是,如果你把脆弱性帶入你的生活,這是我看到的一個非常具體的例子
is that with recent layoffs that have been going on, people have come onto LinkedIn to post and to share that they've lost their job, which is a really scary thing to share. And
就是最近的裁員,人們在LinkedIn上發帖分享他們失去了工作,這是一件非常可怕的事情要分享。而且
honestly, I don't know if I would be able to do that because I feel a lot of um nervousness and shame around that, which I don't think other people who are
老實說,我不知道我是否能夠做到,因為我對此感到很多緊張和羞恥,我不認為其他正在
reading it feel. they feel more empathy. But if you post about that and share more about your life in a vulnerable way, I've also seen people get job opportunities because they've shared
閱讀它的人會感到。他們更感到同理心。但如果你以脆弱的方式發帖分享更多關於你生活的事情,我也看到人們因為他們分享
about their layoff. >> Yeah, exactly. I love that you bring that up because shame versus empathy is one of those really main constructs in Berne Brown's book, Daring Greatly. And
關於他們的裁員而獲得工作機會。是的,正是。我喜歡你提到那個,因為羞恥對比同理心是Brené Brown書《脆弱的力量》中的主要概念之一。當
when you admit that you're unsure or that you need help, you're really like inviting people in to support you. Um, I think another example that I can think
你承認你不確定或需要幫助時,你真的是在邀請人們來支持你。嗯,我能想到的另一個例子
of for ourselves is just starting on this new venture of Tiger Sisters. Like that's something that I and you have been very very open about to everyone from the very beginning, which is that
對我們自己來說就是開始Tiger Sisters這個新事業。像是這是我和你從一開始就非常非常開放地對每個人說的事情,就是
we're starting this new venture. It's based around a podcast. It's content to commerce. These are all things that we have never done. We've never like actually worked in media before either
我們正在開始這個新事業。它基於一個播客。它是內容到商業。這些都是我們從未做過的事情。我們也從來沒有實際上在媒體行業工作過,我們
of us. We've always worked in tech or finance. And so like I've gone into a lot of conversations being like, "Hey, I don't know anything really or like I
兩個人。我們一直在科技或金融行業工作。所以我在很多對話中就像是,「嘿,我其實什麼都不知道,或者像是我
don't even know what I know. Like I would love to to learn from you." And I think that that has been really helpful for us because we're coming at it from a
甚至不知道我知道什麼。我很想向你學習。」我認為這對我們真的很有幫助,因為我們是從一個
position of or from a perspective of being like we're open to learning. And the first part of that is being like, hey, we admit to not knowing things.
願意學習的立場或觀點來對待它的。而第一部分就是像是,嘿,我們承認不知道的事情。
Like yeah, >> we're not experts by any means. And I think people might view that as a weakness, but I also view that, like we said before, as an invitation for help.
像是是的,我們絕對不是專家。我認為人們可能把那視為弱點,但我也把它視為,像我們之前說的,邀請幫助。
>> And maybe sharing your weaknesses could be a strength as well in that way. if you feel hesitant about sharing your like quoteunquote weakness or like being
也許分享你的弱點也可以成為一種優勢。如果你對分享你所謂的弱點或以那種方式
vulnerable in that way. I guess one way I don't even actively think about it this way, but I think it's just like inherent to my approach to it is that
脆弱感到猶豫。我猜一種方式,我甚至沒有主動這樣想過,但我認為這只是我處理方式的固有方式,就是
I'm like, well, I'm not an expert in this area, but I know I'm an expert in many other areas, right? Like I believe in my own ability and I know I'm smart
我就像是,嗯,我不是這個領域的專家,但我知道我在很多其他領域是專家,對吧?像是我相信我自己的能力,我知道我很聰明
and I know I can like learn. I just have a lot of self-belief, but I just have no experience in this area. So, like there's nothing wrong with being unexperienced,
我知道我可以學習。我只是有很多自信,但我在這個領域沒有經驗。所以,像是沒有經驗沒什麼錯,
>> you know? Um, so maybe that's like a kind of mindset that you can take on if you want to kind of reveal your vulnerability to people to be like,
你知道嗎?嗯,所以也許那是一種你可以採用的心態,如果你想向人們展示你的脆弱性,像是,
yeah, like I am not an expert in this area. I'm an expert in other areas.
是的,像是我不是這個領域的專家。我是其他領域的專家。
>> Well, it's just it's good to >> It's like when a recruiter asks you what your greatest weakness is and you're like, my greatest weakness is that I can
嗯,這只是這很好,當招聘人員問你最大的弱點是什麼時,你就像是,我最大的弱點是我可以
learn anything. My greatest weakness is I don't know everything, but I can learn anything.
學任何東西。我最大的弱點是我不知道所有事情,但我可以學任何東西。
>> Is that what I sound like? >> It's just funny. I mean, but it and I think it's just very naturally how you feel and a very positive outlook because
這是我聽起來的樣子嗎?只是好笑。我是說,但這只是非常自然地你的感受方式和一個非常積極的觀點,因為
you have a lot of self-belief. My greatest weakness is I have too much self.
你有很多自信。我最大的弱點是我有太多自我。
>> You know, it's like when you're trying to make a weakness sound like a strength in an interview.
你知道的,這就像是當你在面試中試圖讓弱點聽起來像優點時。
>> No, that's when you're always like, "My greatest weakness is that I'm a perfectionist." >> Yeah. Don't say that. If you're doing an interview, do not say that because
不,那是當你總是像是,「我最大的弱點是我是完美主義者。」是的。不要那樣說。如果你在面試,不要那樣說,因為
recruiters will see right through it. >> Yeah. And now that I'm older, I'm like, "Wow, that really is a weakness." >> Actually, it's come it's come around full circle. Maybe you can say that
招聘人員會看穿的。是的。現在我老了,我像是,「哇,那真的是一個弱點。」實際上,它又繞回來了。也許你可以再說
again now. Maybe people should say that again now.
一次了。也許人們現在應該再說一次了。
>> I mean, that actually is my weakness.
我是說,那實際上是我的弱點。
I'm not even I'm not even bullshitting. You know, that's my weakness. We talked about it before. It is.
我甚至不是在鬍說。你知道的,那是我的弱點。我們之前談過。是的。
>> It takes me like 10 times longer to write an email than Sheree.
我寫一封郵件比Sheree花的時間長10倍。
>> Shere's like, "Hey, can you do this?
Sheree就像是,「嘿,你能做這個嗎?
Bye." Yeah, my emails are very short and I don't spend more than like if it's a really important one I'll spend a lot of time, but if it's like one I'm just like
拜。」是的,我的郵件非常短,如果是一封非常重要的郵件我會花很多時間,但如果只是像是我就
it could be a few sentences and then you sign off and you don't think about it.
可以是幾句話然後簽名就不去想了。
>> Like good morning to you today. >> She writes like a Shakespeareian sonnet that she reads 15 times over and I'm like girl just send the email out. Just
像是今天早上好。她寫得像莎士比亞十四行詩,她讀15遍,我就像是女孩,就把郵件發出去。就
send it. It It's not It's not that deep.
發出去。沒有那麼深奧。
>> I'm like top of the mourn. >> Yeah.
我就像是清晨好。是的。
>> Okay, >> we digress. >> We digress. Okay, we do have a mini exercise for you.
好,我們跑題了。我們跑題了。好,我們確實有一個小練習給你。
>> Oh yeah. for this section. So, if you can think of one vulnerable moment, we would love for you guys to share that with a trusted friend. We
喔是的。對這個部分。所以,如果你能想到一個脆弱的時刻,我們很希望你們和一個信任的朋友分享。我們
have studies that show that 90% of people who opened up to others feel less lonely. But most importantly, they feel even more motivated to move forward because they've shared something with
有研究顯示90%向他人敞開心扉的人感到不那麼孤獨。但更重要的是,他們感到更有動力向前進,因為他們和
their friend and they have more social accountability in that way. After you've shared with your friend, observe how this impacts your mindset and tell us in the comments.
他們的朋友分享了一些東西,他們有更多的社交責任感。在你和朋友分享後,觀察這如何影響你的心態,在評論中告訴我們。
Harvard Business Review actually found that leaders who practice vulnerability such as admitting to a mistake or asking for feedback are 20% more likely to foster high performing teams. So like
哈佛商業評論實際上發現,實踐脆弱性的領導者,如承認錯誤或尋求反饋,更有可能培養高績效團隊20%。所以像是
however that you know is defined. They did this whole study about it. So it's not just in your like personal life that where it's it's um fruitful and actually effective to practice vulnerability.
不管那是如何定義的。他們對此做了完整的研究。所以不只是在你的個人生活中脆弱性是有成效的和有效的。
It's also can be applied in your career and your work life strategically. Okay, we're gonna take a really quick break and then when we return, we move on to
它也可以戰略性地應用在你的職業和工作生活中。好,我們要休息一下,然後當我們回來時,我們繼續
Esther Pel's idea of rewriting your story. Hey, it's Sheree. If you've been enjoying Tiger Sisters, hit subscribe on Spotify and YouTube. And please leave us a five-star review. It takes just a few
Esther Perel的重寫你的故事的想法。嘿,我是Sheree。如果你一直在享受Tiger Sisters,在Spotify和YouTube上點擊訂閱。請給我們留下五星評價。這只需要幾
seconds, but it has a huge impact on helping Tiger Sisters survive and grow.
秒鐘,但它對幫助Tiger Sisters生存和成長有巨大的影響。
Thank you so much. And now back to the episode. I'm really excited to talk about this because I think reinvention should be part of everyone's life. And we talked a little bit about this
非常感謝。現在回到節目。我真的很興奮談論這個,因為我認為重塑應該是每個人生活的一部分。我們之前稍微談過這個,
before, but if you think about the major celebrities out there like Lady Gaga, Taylor Swift, Leonardo DiCaprio, I think all of these not the Leonardo DiCaprio, >> Miley Cyrus,
但如果你想想那些主要的名人,像是Lady Gaga、Taylor Swift、Leonardo DiCaprio,我認為所有這些,不是Leonardo DiCaprio,Miley Cyrus,
>> Miley Cyrus, you don't like Leonardo DiCaprio.
Miley Cyrus,你不喜歡Leonardo DiCaprio。
>> Just I don't know where you're going with Leonardo DiCaprio.
只是我不知道你要說什麼關於Leonardo DiCaprio。
>> I feel like he constantly reinvents himself in the roles that he takes. Oh, I thought you were like, first he's someone who dated a 27y old, then he's
我覺得他在他接的角色中不斷重塑自己。喔,我以為你在說,首先他是和27歲的人約會,然後他是
someone who dated a 24y old. >> No, I mean, and Christian Bale, I don't know. I just like feel like when you look at celebrities and the longevity of
和24歲的人約會。不,我是說,還有Christian Bale,我不知道。我只是覺得當你看名人和他們職業生涯的長久性時
their careers, the ones that have staying power are the people who can reinvent themselves constantly.
那些有持久力的人是那些可以不斷重塑自己的人。
>> Um, like Miley Cyrus. >> Like Miley Cyrus. I love that. Go girl.
嗯,像是Miley Cyrus。像是Miley Cyrus。我喜歡這個。加油女孩。
Go girl. >> She's incredible. >> Yeah. I mean, if Leonardo DiCaprio were to reinvent himself and date someone a little bit older, I think that might also
加油女孩。她太厲害了。是的。我是說,如果Leonardo DiCaprio重塑自己並和年紀大一點的人約會,我認為那也可能
>> have some staying power, too. Yeah. In the media. Um, but alas, but I think this is just so fun because we can talk about reinventing ourselves at any point in our lives.
有一些持久力。是的。在媒體上。嗯,但可惜,但我認為這太有趣了,因為我們可以在人生的任何時刻談論重塑自己。
>> And the concept um from Esther Prell is not just reinventing yourself, but it's specifically the idea of rewriting your story, right? Rewriting your narrative.
Esther Perel的概念不只是重塑自己,而是具體地重寫你的故事,對吧?重寫你的敘事。
>> Exactly. In Esther Pearll's book, Mating in Captivity, she specifically talks about this concept in the sort of framework of romantic relationships. So, basically, she says, you know, you can
正是。在Esther Perel的書《親密陷阱》中,她在浪漫關係的框架中具體談到了這個概念。所以,基本上,她說,你知道的,你可以
rewrite your story because if you're not the same person now that you were in your 20s, why do you have to be the same person romantically?
重寫你的故事,因為如果你現在不是你20多歲時的同一個人,為什麼你在浪漫方面必須是同一個人?
>> Mhm. Often times, we forget, I forget that we outgrow different patterns from earlier in our lives. And that could be dating, that could be friendship and outgrowing relationships and
嗯。經常,我們忘了,我忘了我們會超越人生早期的不同模式。那可能是約會,可能是友誼和超越關係和
friendships. That's very much a thing that I have to keep top of mind because it can feel super painful when it happens. But that's part of growth in it
友誼。那非常是一個我必須記住的事情,因為當它發生時會感覺非常痛苦。但那本身就是成長的一部分
of itself. And in her book, Esther Prell says that you can reframe your identity as someone who fails in relationships or friendships to someone who learns from past mistakes and actively builds
在她的書中,Esther Perel說你可以把你的身份從一個在關係或友誼中失敗的人重新定義為一個從過去的錯誤中學習並積極建立
healthier dynamics. And I feel like this mindset shift is gamechanging because honestly, relationships fail because you're dating, but like at the end game, you're only supposed to marry one
更健康動態的人。我覺得這個心態轉變是改變遊戲規則的,因為老實說,關係失敗是因為你在約會,但在最終遊戲中,你只應該嫁給一個
person. You know what I mean? So like they're supposed to fail up until you find the one.
人。你懂我的意思嗎?所以像是它們應該失敗,直到你找到那個人。
>> So I think that's like just a reframe of it all, right? Like they're meant to You're supposed to date many, many people.
所以我認為那只是對所有這些的重新定義,對吧?像是它們就是應該。你應該和很多很多人約會。
>> So you're saying we should romantically fail upwards.
所以你是說我們應該在浪漫上向上失敗。
>> Yes. Exactly. Fail. Take a page out of the book of every man you've ever worked with.
是的。正是。失敗。從你曾經共事過的每個男人的書中取一頁。
>> Oh my god. >> And fail upwards romantically.
天哪。並在浪漫上向上失敗。
>> Yeah. I mean, I I think that I realized this or maybe I like internalized this very recently.
是的。我是說,我認為我最近才意識到這個或者可能是內化了這個。
>> Yeah. >> Like not you're not supposed to keep all your relationships, >> right?
是的。像是你不應該保持所有的關係,對吧?
>> You can only keep one at the end.
你最終只能保持一個。
They're all supposed to fail except for one.
它們都應該失敗,除了一個。
>> Yeah. And this actually reminded me of the um James Clear framework because she's saying like reframe yourself as you know someone who learns from relationships and sets up new healthier
是的。這實際上讓我想起了James Clear的框架,因為她說像是把自己重新定義為一個從關係中學習並建立新的更健康
ones. That's the same idea of taking on the identity. Yeah. Internalizing.
關係的人。這是同樣的想法,採用那個身份。是的。內化。
>> I am someone who learns from past relationships and forms healthier ones.
我是一個從過去的關係中學習並形成更健康關係的人。
>> Exactly. >> Wow. Putting together all the frameworks connecting the dots live. Do we're doing it live.
正是。哇。把所有框架放在一起,連接點,現場直播。我們正在現場直播。
>> You're here with us. >> You're doing it live.
你和我們在一起。你正在現場直播。
>> Okay. I feel like one example I could sort of uniquely give is that I've mentioned before I ended an 8-year long relationship and engagement um this past
好。我覺得一個我可以獨特給出的例子是我之前提到過我在過去
year when I was 35. So I guess like one way you could look at yourself is to be like oh my god like I'm someone who breaks engagements and has like a failed
這一年我35歲時結束了一段8年的關係和訂婚。所以我猜像是一種你可以看待自己的方式是像是天哪,我是一個打破訂婚並且有一個失敗的
like fails in broke one. So I feel like if you've broken multiple Allah runaway bride you might take that identity.
像是失敗。打破了一個。所以我覺得如果你打破過多個像是《落跑新娘》你可能會採用那個身份。
don't be so hard on yourself. >> Or like you could be like, you know, you could think of yourself, one could think of themselves as like, oh, I'm someone
不要對自己太苛刻。或者像是你可以像是,你知道的,你可以認為自己,一個人可以認為自己像是,喔,我是一個
who fails in relationships. Or maybe you can think of yourself, by you, I mean me.
在關係中失敗的人。或者也許你可以認為自己,說你,我是說我。
You can think of yourself as like, wow, I'm someone who is brave enough and, you know, I guess sure enough of herself to end a eight-yearong relationship, even when it
你可以認為自己像是,哇,我是一個足夠勇敢的人,你知道的,我猜足夠確定自己結束一段八年的關係,即使它
seems like from the outside seems to be perfect on paper seems to be so great and like you've already invested so much into it. I'm someone who's brave enough
從外面看起來在紙面上似乎是完美的,似乎是如此好,像是你已經在它上面投入了這麼多。我是一個足夠勇敢的人
to um step away from that in search of something that is actually better for me. Like when this is actually something that no longer works.
去離開那個,尋找對我來說實際上更好的東西。像是當這實際上是不再有效的東西時。
>> It takes a lot of courage. It takes a lot of courage. You You are someone who is courageous. That's a very courageous thing to do.
這需要很多勇氣。這需要很多勇氣。你是一個勇敢的人。那是一件非常勇敢的事。
>> Yeah. Yeah. I just came up with that just now, guys. I was not just came up with that just now. But yeah, >> you feel that? Do you feel that in your
是的。是的。我剛剛才想出那個,各位。我不是剛剛才想出那個。但是的,你感受到了嗎?你在你的
bones or is it hard to internalize that?
骨子裡感受到了嗎,還是很難內化那個?
I mean, it's not something honestly like it's not something that I've ever said out loud. Like this is the first time I've ever really said that out loud. But
我是說,老實說這不是我曾經大聲說出來的東西。像是這是我第一次真正大聲說出來。但
it is something that other people have said to me. Like when I have told people, you know, oh yeah, like I broke my engagement, like we were together for
這是其他人對我說過的。像是當我告訴人們,你知道的,喔是的,像是我打破了我的訂婚,像是我們在一起
eight years, blah blah blah, they're like, wow, like you are so brave. Like you're so courageous. And not in a way where they're like, >> "You're so brave for posting that
八年,諸如此類,他們就像是,哇,你太勇敢了。你太勇敢了。不是那種他們像是,「你這麼勇敢發那個
without makeup. You're so brave to wear. >> You're so brave for wearing that bathing suit, >> that outfit. I could never wear that." But you're so brave.
不化妝的照片。你這麼勇敢穿那個泳衣,那套衣服。我永遠不會穿那個。」但你太勇敢了。
>> But no, I like when people say it to me, like I can tell that they really mean it because it is something that is so scary. Like it's so it's it's kind of
但不是,我喜歡當人們對我說這個,像是我能感覺到他們真的是這麼想的,因為這是如此可怕的事情。像是它太它有點
incomprehensible. And even to myself, like even to me two years ago, three years ago, like a year and a half ago, it would have been incomprehensible.
難以理解。甚至對我自己,像是甚至對兩年前、三年前、一年半前的我來說,這是難以理解的。
>> But like we said earlier, that was a different person.
但像我們之前說的,那是一個不同的人。
>> Like that's that was a different person.
像是那是一個不同的人。
>> I was a different person. That was like the old me. Now this is the new me. I'm reinvented, >> What you going to say about
我是一個不同的人。那是像是舊的我。現在這是新的我。我重塑了,你要怎麼說
>> What you going to do about it? What you going to do about that?
你要怎麼辦?你要怎麼辦?
>> Yeah. This is your reinvention era in so many ways.
是的。這是你在很多方面的重塑時代。
>> Yeah. >> And it's you guys are a part of it. It's live. It's happening. Um I think an interesting like exercise people could do. This is not the official mini
是的。而且你們是其中的一部分。它是現場的。它正在發生。嗯,我認為一個有趣的,像是人們可以做的練習。這不是官方的小
exercise. This is the side mini exercise I just side quest I just came up with.
練習。這是我剛剛想出的支線小練習。
>> If you guys are inspired to do so, >> is that like maybe you can sort of go through that same exercise I just did.
如果你們受到啟發想這樣做,就是像是也許你可以經歷我剛剛做的同樣的練習。
And if there's something that you're still, I guess, like processing or like a part of you that is starting over is to like think of what other people say
如果有一些你還在,我猜,像是處理中的事情,或者像是你正在重新開始的一部分,就是想想當你告訴他們關於你的改變或你的重塑或你的新敘事時其他人對
to you when you tell them about your change or your like reinvention or your new narrative and then start to like say like say that out loud about yourself
你說什麼,然後開始像是大聲對自己說那個
for the first time like I just did it.
第一次,像我剛剛做的。
It's kind of wild. Like I've never said that about myself to be like, "Yeah, and I'm really courageous and brave for choosing to do what I did as opposed to,
這有點瘋狂。像是我從來沒有對自己說過那個,像是,「是的,我真的很勇敢和勇敢選擇做我做的事,而不是,
you know, staying in a relationship that seemed that seemed perfect in so many ways." It's weird. It's weird to like I think it's good though to like say it out loud
你知道的,待在一段在很多方面看起來似乎完美的關係中。」這很奇怪。像是我認為這很好,大聲說出來
and like take on the identity and like experience how other people are viewing you.
並採用那個身份,體驗其他人如何看待你。
>> Yeah. Because in some ways I feel like people can see you more clearly than you can see yourself.
是的。因為在某些方面我覺得人們可以比你自己更清楚地看到你。
>> Not the situation but just like your perception of yourself >> and people are able to and at least the ones who are able to share that with you
不是情況,但只是像是你對自己的看法,而且人們能夠,至少那些能夠和你分享那個的人
>> um that you really respect or like wait I respect you and you respect me now and like wait now I can understand what you see.
嗯,你真正尊重的或像是等等我尊重你而你尊重我,現在像是等等現在我可以理解你看到的。
>> It's a crazy thing. >> Yeah. That's the off the books mini exercise.
這是一件瘋狂的事。是的。那是非官方的小練習。
>> Bonus mini exercise. >> Bonus mini exercise.
額外小練習。額外小練習。
>> Great. We'll give that to you for free.
太好了。那個我們免費給你。
So, the official exercise, if you'd like to try another one, is to write down the old story that no longer serves you. Put it down on paper and rewrite it in a way
所以,官方練習,如果你想嘗試另一個,是寫下不再為你服務的舊故事。把它寫在紙上,用一種
that reflects your growth and your future aspirations. What is your new story, your new narrative that you're going to tell yourself? Share that story with a friend or with us in the comments
反映你的成長和你未來志向的方式重寫它。你的新故事、你要告訴自己的新敘事是什麼?和朋友或在評論中和我們分享那個故事
if you're open to getting feedback and having Gene and I read that. Um, so yeah, we'd love to see what you guys come up with. Okay, so just to recap, in
如果你願意獲得反饋並讓Jean和我閱讀。嗯,所以是的,我們很想看看你們想出什麼。好,所以只是回顧一下,在
today's episode, we covered James Clear's Atomic Habits, Bnee Brown's concepts of vulnerability, and Esther Prell's ideas around rewriting your narrative. And I think putting the three together, this is like the perfect
今天的節目中,我們涵蓋了James Clear的原子習慣、Brené Brown的脆弱性概念,以及Esther Perel關於重寫你敘事的想法。我認為把這三個放在一起,這就像是完美的
toolkit for starting over, whether you're 29, 36, or any age. Thank you guys so much for tuning in for this episode. Please remember to like, comment, and subscribe. It is super
重新開始的工具包,無論你是29歲、36歲還是任何年齡。非常感謝你們收聽這一集。請記得點贊、評論和訂閱。這是超級
important if you follow and subscribe us because then you'll get notified when our next episode drops.
重要的,如果你關注和訂閱我們,因為這樣你會在下一集發布時收到通知。
>> Yeah. And I also really want to hear what you guys have to say in the comments, especially because um I spoke so much about my own experience this
是的。我也真的很想聽你們在評論中說什麼,特別是因為這次我講了這麼多關於我自己的經歷。
time. So like I want to hear you guys talk about your >> she's being vulnerable. If you like that Jean's being vulnerable and opening up about her life and I'm opening up about
所以像是我想聽你們談談你們的,她正在脆弱。如果你喜歡Jean正在脆弱並敞開心扉談論她的生活,我正在敞開心扉談論
mine, please give her some support in the comments.
我的,請在評論中給她一些支持。
>> We read every single >> part of our community. We want to know you guys are out there and also the conversations I think are really rich
我們讀每一條,這是我們社區的一部分。我們想知道你們在那裡,而且我認為對話真的很豐富
and a lot of other people are reading other comments as well and feeling very encouraged by your story.
很多其他人也在閱讀其他評論,並且對你的故事感到非常鼓勵。
>> Thanks guys. See you next time. >> Bye.
謝謝各位。下次見。拜拜。
>> That's part two. We are so proud of those two episodes and now you guys have both the emotional map and the practical toolkit. Okay, we know that's a lot. So
那是第二部分。我們為那兩集感到非常自豪,現在你們有了情感地圖和實用工具包。好,我們知道那很多。所以
don't try to do all of those six frameworks at once. Just pick one and do that exercise today. And if you really want some structure from us, do this.
不要試圖一次做所有那六個框架。只選一個,今天做那個練習。如果你真的想要我們給的一些結構,這樣做。
Day one, transition. Day two, growth mindset. Day three, prototype. Day four, habits. Day five, vulnerability. Day six, rewrite your story. And day seven, reflect. And also, don't keep this to
第一天,過渡。第二天,成長心態。第三天,原型。第四天,習慣。第五天,脆弱性。第六天,重寫你的故事。第七天,反思。而且,不要把這個留給
yourself. We're not gatekeeping. If you know someone who's in a new season of change, send this episode to them. Also, please tell us in the comments what aspect in your life you're starting over
自己。我們不是在藏私。如果你認識正處於改變新季節的人,把這一集發給他們。還有,請在評論中告訴我們你在生活的哪個方面正在重新開始。
in. It could be big, it could be small, it could be something totally trivial.
可以是大的,可以是小的,可以是完全瑣碎的事。
We really, really want to hear from you guys. We read all the comments and we're in it with you. If you guys have a second, please like and subscribe. It's
我們真的非常想聽你們說什麼。我們讀所有評論,我們和你們在一起。如果你們有一秒鐘,請點贊和訂閱。
so important that you guys subscribe and if you have 5 seconds, please rate us five stars because this really helps with the survival and growth of Tiger Sisters podcast. We'll see you guys next
如果你們有5秒鐘,請給我們五星評價,因為這對Tiger Sisters播客的生存和成長真的很有幫助。我們下週見。
week. will be here with you every single week. Bye >> bye.
我們每週都會在這裡陪你。拜拜。拜拜。